Where Did Trump Get Wuwho Flu?

[AtTheMurph]

NSA/CIA infected them.

 

[Redhorse]

I’m not sure where you’re confused. It’s pretty obvious that neither side wants to work together. Both sides’ supporters believe baseless conspiracy theories Making the polarization of politics even worse.

 

[BugI02]

If you want to understand why Trump's re-election chances are looking dim, look no further than our most recently departed member. Voidsherpa, was a conservative, and a Trump voter. His posting history was indicative of not exactly having the best opinion of liberals... and yet he had reached the point where he could no longer tolerate the state of Trump's America. I doubt he had some sort of epiphany, and magically became a liberal. He saw what many other Americans currently. Now I won't condone him wishing ill on anybody, that was uncalled for, but he was generally a pretty good guy.... and guy who had reached his limit, with those he thought could see what was evident to him. If a guy like that leaves the cult, there are plenty more less conservative than him, that walked away earlier.

Given the dearth of facts in the voidsherpa matter, I can't see how you arrived at your position (or actually, I can if we take logical deduction out of the mix)

He believed, and I believe even overtly stated, that his business needed consumer confidence closer to the pre-WuVid levels in order to make a go of it and he believed Trump was downplaying the seriousness of the virus. There is no cause and effect there. If Trump was downplaying the virus, that would serve to encourage the kind of consumer confidence he said he needed. It is the people overplaying the seriousness of the virus as well as advocating for additional lockdowns and precautions that are militating against any return of consumer confidence. The mercurial nature of the advice of 'experts' plays a part also, that blame can be laid somewhat at the door of both parties but most especially the party that sought/seeks to politicize the virus for electoral advantage. In all cases it seems clear to me that he wanted to blame the sector of the political spectrum working hardest to achieve results he said he desired for his troubles, which is a non sequitur. The people from the part of the political spectrum saying that we should not go full speed ahead on developing a vaccine are most certainly not advocating for a return to normal ASAP

When you strip his apparent thought process of the unnecessary trappings it seems to be that when he began to hurt financially he sought to blame those in power not those responsible. Orange Man Bad

I don't really think that is what a conservative would do, it's possible he just played on on INGO - and that type seems to be falling by the wayside as they find themselves bereft of any influence they once had

 

[johny5]

I’m not sure where you’re confused. It’s pretty obvious that neither side wants to work together. Both sides’ supporters believe baseless conspiracy theories Making the polarization of politics even worse.

Where I come from, 2 number 1's makes 11

Just having a bit of fun with your comments. Yes, I agree that the public discourse has reached a heretofore unheard-of pitch. Not sure I agree with the you on the drivers, but the outcome is sadly the same.

 

[BugI02]

Where I'm at, Trump is making it very easy to see the cliff we're being dragged towards and people are starting to dig in their heels. If one is diametrically opposed to something, such as communism/socialism, no further compromise is possible

 

[JettaKnight]

Yes. Trump's behavior is a turnoff. Democrat's craziness is a bigger turnoff. At least to me. Not everyone has a problem with bat **** crazy ideological poison.

QFT.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Those people are called 'low information voters' to put it nicely, putting emotion or feelings over policy. I don't really have a problem with how he 'carries on' we've needed somebody like him for awhile after having weak RINO's like McCain and Romney that let the media and democrats steamroll them. I'm not willing to vote for biden/harris because people think Trump says mean things lol. In case you haven't noticed biden hasn't exactly been all that polite and sensitive out on the campaign trail!

The VAST majority of voters are "low information voters." ...Trump and Biden supporters alike. I'd say, (and this may come of as an insult,but it's not meant to be) that comparatively, the average INGO poster is more politically savvy than the average voter, and yet still have a somewhat pedestrian understanding of the political process compared to "informed voters."

 

[Ingomike]

I’m not sure where you’re confused. It’s pretty obvious that neither side wants to work together. Both sides’ supporters believe baseless conspiracy theories Making the polarization of politics even worse.

I truly have a difficult time understanding the person a post like that comes from.

Lets leave the petty stuff to the petty people and discuss the big hitters.

One party wants open borders and unlimited immigration the other wants controlled and vetted. What do you want?

One party wants rule of law the other wants to defund police and elect prosecutors that don't follow the laws. What do you want?

One party openly wants to eliminate private guns the other is at least more measured and hopefully returning to more textual constitutional understanding. What do you want?

Who cares what color the deck chairs are if the boat is sinking? How do the sides compromise on the above? There is either control of who comes and goes, or there is not. There is either rule of law or there is not. There are either freedoms to guns, or there are not. Please feel free to expound in detail how they should work together...

 

[Ingomike]

The VAST majority of voters are "low information voters." ...Trump and Biden supporters alike. I'd say, (and this may come of as an insult,but it's not meant to be) that comparatively, the average INGO poster is more politically savvy than the average voter, and yet still have a somewhat pedestrian understanding of the political process compared to "informed voters."

So just who are the informed voters?

 

[JCSR]

I truly have a difficult time understanding the person a post like that comes from.

Lets leave the petty stuff to the petty people and discuss the big hitters.

One party wants open borders and unlimited immigration the other wants controlled and vetted. What do you want?

One party wants rule of law the other wants to defund police and elect prosecutors that don't follow the laws. What do you want?

One party openly wants to eliminate private guns the other is at least more measured and hopefully returning to more textual constitutional understanding. What do you want?

Who cares what color the deck chairs are if the boat is sinking? How do the sides compromise on the above? There is either control of who comes and goes, or there is not. There is either rule of law or there is not. There are either freedoms to guns, or there are not. Please feel free to expound in detail how they should work together...

So just who are the informed voters?

I'm informed enough to want closed borders, Law and Order, and the right to protect myself. Does that count.

 

[drillsgt]

I'm informed enough to want closed borders, Law and Order, and the right to protect myself. Does that count.

That's so pedestrian...

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Really? I'm confident a number of voters will vote Biden/Harris based solely, on how they preset themselves publicly, compared to Trump. Clearly, Trump's insults, language, tweets and general uncouthness are a turnoff for many voters. Unless you like that type of behavior, you don't that's an advantage over Biden Trump? I ask, because I'm not sure if you're one of those "fight back" Trumpers, who enjoy the way the president carries on.

I suppose calling the president a fool, a clown, and telling him to shut up is only a turn off when trump does it?

 

[JettaKnight]

I suppose calling the president a fool, a clown, and telling him to shut up is only a turn off when trump does it?

After watching bits of the debate, I can only say that Monday Night Rehabilitation is definitely in our future.

 

[JCSR]

That's so pedestrian...

Keep the eyes open at all times......

 

[Ziggidy]

I wonder how the country would vote IF:

1) We removed all names (Trump, Pence, Biden, Harris) and such from ballots
2) Remove all party affiliation from ballots
3) Replaced names / party affiliation with detailed platforms, ideologies and such (what each party/individual actually stands for)

For months before the election, each party would be able to explain (through campaign ads, meetings and such) why specific platforms may be good or bad for the individual and country. Nothing personal, no attack ads, no party ads....just discussion about platforms.

Come election day - all we can vote on is the platforms.

I wonder how the country would vote.

 

[kickbacked]

I wonder how the country would vote IF:

1) We removed all names (Trump, Pence, Biden, Harris) and such from ballots
2) Remove all party affiliation from ballots
3) Replaced names / party affiliation with detailed platforms, ideologies and such (what each party/individual actually stands for)

For months before the election, each party would be able to explain (through campaign ads, meetings and such) why specific platforms may be good or bad for the individual and country. Nothing personal, no attack ads, no party ads....just discussion about platforms.

Come election day - all we can vote on is the platforms.

I wonder how the country would vote.

talk is cheap, actions matter. Both candidates now have a history you can look to and say they honored their word or they didn't.

 

[JettaKnight]

I wonder how the country would vote IF:

1) We removed all names (Trump, Pence, Biden, Harris) and such from ballots
2) Remove all party affiliation from ballots
3) Replaced names / party affiliation with detailed platforms, ideologies and such (what each party/individual actually stands for)

For months before the election, each party would be able to explain (through campaign ads, meetings and such) why specific platforms may be good or bad for the individual and country. Nothing personal, no attack ads, no party ads....just discussion about platforms.

Come election day - all we can vote on is the platforms.

I wonder how the country would vote.

Except reality has taught me that after the election, all I'm left with is the names - the ideologies let left on the campaign trail for the most part.

 

[TangoFoxtrot]

Omg i know its off topic but my childhood mentor eddie van Halen died

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[mmpsteve]

All elected members have sworn an oath to the Constitution. When one side wants to fundamentally change it, it doesn’t leave much room for compromise.

It would seem to be a pretty basic truth, but some people don't see it like that. I would argue that compromise with evil has achieved what we see all around us. One thing I've learned - evil never compromises, and never stops pushing, ever. The gnashing of teeth you see nowadays is the evil, furious that we would have the nerve to push back, even a little.

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[jamil]

Omg i know its off topic but my childhood mentor eddie van Halen died

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I heard that too. R.I.P. Eddie. He was a true innovator.