What I learned from the DNC speeches last night...

[findingZzero]

Speak for yourself. Democrats are the very antithesis of me.

I seee yer wearin' a tie, hmmmmmm..even when it's not work, a wedding, fund raiser, or a funeral.

 

[melensdad]

I seee yer wearin' a tie, hmmmmmm..even when it's not work, a wedding, fund raiser, or a funeral.

Seriously dude, what is wrong with you? Can't you simply and rationally discuss the issues with facts?

No wonder people think of you as a troll.

 

[Jarhead77]

Hardly ever see Democrats or Hoosiers wearing ties......
Which Kool-Aid are you talking about?
The Democrat, Republican, or Libertarian?

Then you are not looking, I wear ties, suits even...open the other eye!!!

Apparently the stuff the Dems would pour down your throat.

 

[NYFelon]

What I learned from this thread...

People from Indiana all look alike
Democrats look like Indianans
Republicans wear ties, no exceptions
Everyone loves Kool-Aid, regardless of political party

 

[dom1104]

Things I learned from this thread.

America's public school system has doomed this country.

 

[RyanV]

Things I learned from this thread.

America's public school system has doomed this country.

^ This. It is sad when I have to explain the difference between a republic and a democracy to my little brother who just graduated high school. He is a smart kid too.

 

[findingZzero]

He wears blue pom poms. Others prefer red. I'm sure we can all find something in common.

I like dogs.

 

[ssblair]

Democrats look more like you and me.
Both parties distort the truth.
Republicans do it more.

As they say frequently on forums: "Show pics or it didn't happen" Or in this case, put up some statistics as evidence, or be branded as an ignorant hater.

Which is a bummer for both sides, 'cuz I'd love to counter with the relatively Democrat tendency to tamper with votes, but I can't substantiate that.... oh wait, I can--Black Panthers in Philadelphia intimidating voters in 2008. Or my college classmate's first-hand observation of several New York and New Jersey plated black Crown Victorias parked outside his polling station in West Hartford, CT for the duration of election day.... Why would anybody from NY or NJ need to be in CT for an election??

 

[cobber]

Compared to the RNC, it's the same tired 'progressive' tripe we've heard since 1968. Needed rabbit ears for my TV, which strangely only functioned in B&W. Thought I saw Gene McCarthy and George McGovern wandering about on the floor at one point.

 

[hacksawfg]

This picture is miraculously appropriate.

 

[mdemetz]

Thought I saw Gene McCarthy and George McGovern wandering about on the floor at one point.

Gene McCarthy is not walking around anymore, but he can still vote Democratic

 

[88GT]

This makes sense now.

I had always thought, wow, this guy really likes Bradley Cooper, and a shirtless Bradley Cooper at that.

Is there any other acceptable condition?

Though in keeping with the tie theme, dress pants with an unbuttoned, untucked dress shirt and a tie draped around the neck is and .

 

[findingZzero]

So are you saying that unemployment is not over 8%?

Are you saying that 50% of the college graduates choose to take minimum wage and other low pay jobs?

Are you saying that gas prices have not doubled?

Do you have any evidence to disprove that food prices have grown at 10% per year for the past 3+ years?

Are you suggesting that 23 million Americans have not lost jobs?

Can you show that UNDERemployment is not over 15%?
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These are not some "statistics" but rather they are simple facts. Why don't you want to discuss facts?

I just posted a long response to this and got timed out and lost it all. Am I being detained, or watched?
While doing this, it started to rain 'like a cow pissin' on a flat rock', so I wasn't in the park to enjoy it or get drenched or whichever comes first. I may still go.

Just last week I started to wonder if, in fact, I was a troll. I do live under a bridge and eat uniformed children, but does that make me bad?
I don't dispute that the economy is in the tank and that unemployment, food, and gas prices have gone up. I do dispute that Obama is wholly responsible for this, or that Romney can fix it. I remember waiting on gas lines in the 70's when we had an OPEC embargo and the price of gas doubled. Food prices do go up all the time. Inflation has been rather low for a while now. I did notice that milk dropped a dime.
I read Newsweek, Time, watch Fox News, Stephanopoulis, Zakaria. I used to listen to Limbaugh back when he hit this market (mid 80's?). I got sick of hearing 'the Left can do no right and the Right can do no wrong' arguments and realized it was just more partisan BS, if not outright abusive." I find some truth in ideas from the right, left and center. How about an Obama-Romney-Paul co-presidency. Compassion, tempered by accounting, and moderated by extreme orthodoxy. I don't believe Obama is a radical, Kenyan, Socialist, Fascist bent on driving America into a Socialist hell, nor that Romney gave that woman cancer, or would be a bad chief executive. The older I get, the less I cling to ideology (politics,guns or religion). The argument that less uncertainty, regulation, taxes would spur the economy is balanced by business people who say that that's not the problem, or entrepeneurs who scoff at the idea that they wait for lower taxes to started new companies. The stock market has been soaring. Companies are sitting on a trillion dollars in cash. Why? Because of Obama's policies? NO! There is no demand. All is not black and white. My views might be a minority here, so I may appear as a troll, (the nose and pointy shoes are real). I have trouble with folks who drink the kool-aid on either side. That's what I'm interested in debunking. Perhaps with humor or skepticism.
You want me to argue with your facts? Not gonna happen. Did Clinton balance the budget because he was just that good, or did it help the there was an internet explosion, and Republican opposition. In fact, compromise works. We are stuck in a partisan quagmire where 'compromise ' has become a dirty word. Compromise is what gets the ball rolling. Politics is the art of compromise. War is politics by other means, usually because there is no compromise. So which is it folks? All Liberals are idiots, and all right wingers are selfish mean, everyone fer 'imself Scrooges? I think that's why there is a middle, or there used to be. We could talk about how redistricting (aka gerrymandering) by either party has created totally partisan districts where candidates don't have to appeal to a broad spectrum of opinions to be elected/reelected has 'compromised' democracy. Do you really want me to get this serious? Facts don't tell the whole story so why should I bother. I could bring other facts and we could do this endlessly. I am done for the moment. I'm exhausted......

 

[findingZzero]

This picture is miraculously appropriate.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Definitely this!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[wagyu52]

I learned that Michelle Obama knows all about her husband Barack and absolutely nothing about our President, Barry.

 

[.45 Dave]

What I learned from this thread...

People from Indiana all look alike
Democrats look like Indianans
Republicans wear ties, no exceptions
Everyone loves Kool-Aid, regardless of political party

What I learned from this thread: people from New York don't know we're called Hoosiers, not "Indianians"

 

[88GT]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Definitely this!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

If the "you" is the libertarian amongst us, yeah, I'd agree.

I don't think anybody here really sees Romney as a savior, just a better stop-gap measure.

 

[hacksawfg]

If the "you" is the libertarian amongst us, yeah, I'd agree.

I don't think anybody here really sees Romney as a savior, just a better stop-gap measure.

"You" is anybody from any party, it applies to everyone.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

I just posted a long response to this and got timed out and lost it all. Am I being detained, or watched?
While doing this, it started to rain 'like a cow pissin' on a flat rock', so I wasn't in the park to enjoy it or get drenched or whichever comes first. I may still go.

Just last week I started to wonder if, in fact, I was a troll. I do live under a bridge and eat uniformed children, but does that make me bad?
I don't dispute that the economy is in the tank and that unemployment, food, and gas prices have gone up. I do dispute that Obama is wholly responsible for this, or that Romney can fix it. I remember waiting on gas lines in the 70's when we had an OPEC embargo and the price of gas doubled. Food prices do go up all the time. Inflation has been rather low for a while now. I did notice that milk dropped a dime.
I read Newsweek, Time, watch Fox News, Stephanopoulis, Zakaria. I used to listen to Limbaugh back when he hit this market (mid 80's?). I got sick of hearing 'the Left can do no right and the Right can do no wrong' arguments and realized it was just more partisan BS, if not outright abusive." I find some truth in ideas from the right, left and center. How about an Obama-Romney-Paul co-presidency. Compassion, tempered by accounting, and moderated by extreme orthodoxy. I don't believe Obama is a radical, Kenyan, Socialist, Fascist bent on driving America into a Socialist hell, nor that Romney gave that woman cancer, or would be a bad chief executive. The older I get, the less I cling to ideology (guns or religion). The argument that less uncertainty, regulation, taxes would spur the economy is balanced by business people who say that that's not the problem, or entrepeneurs who scoff at the idea that they wait for lower taxes to started new companies. The stock market has been soaring. Companies are sitting on a trillion dollars in cash. Why? Because of Obama's policies? NO! There is no demand. All is not black and white. My views might be a minority here, so I may appear as a troll, (the nose and pointy shoes are real). I have trouble with folks who drink the kool-aid on either side. That's what I'm interested in debunking. Perhaps with humor or scepticism.
You want me to argue with your facts? Not gonna happen. Did Clinton balance the budget because he was just that good, or did it help the there was an internet explosion, and Republican opposition. In fact, compromise works. We are stuck in a partisan quagmire where 'compromise ' has become a dirty word. Compromise is what gets the ball rolling. Politics is the art of compromise. War is politics by other means, usually because there is no compromise. So which is it folks? All Liberals are idiots, and all right wingers are selfish mean, everyone fer 'imself Scrooges? I think that's why there is a middle, or there used to be. We could talk about how redistricting (aka gerrymandering) by either party has created totally partisan districts where candidates don't have to appeal to a broad spectrum of opinions to be elected/reelected has 'compromised' democracy. Do you really want me to get this serious? Facts don't tell the whole story so why should I bother. I could bring other facts and we could do this endlessly. I am done for the moment. I'm exhausted......

A couple corrections: Limbaugh entered the Indianapolis market in '91.

The last time we had major gas shortages was under Jimmy Carter - an artificial crisis because there WAS no gasoline shortage, as it turned out.


For most of our lifetimes, "compromise" has meant Democrats get what they ask for and renege on what they promise. Reagan was promised Congress would cut spending in return for his allowing various tax deductions to be eliminated. He allowed it; they reneged & didn't cut spending. GHW Bush promised no new taxes. Democrats promised to make matching spending cuts if he allowed them to raise taxes. He allowed it; they reneged on their spending cuts; they used his "broken promise" to sabotage his second term bid. Bill Clinton promised to lower taxes, but reneged with his Democrat Congress. He didn't cut spending until a Republican Congress forced him to - then took credit for the economic recovery. Republicans took control of the Senate; Democrats talked Jim Jeffords into becoming an "Independent" and caucusing with them; bringing the Senate to a 50/50 tie with the Republican VP the tie-breaker; Democrats pushed for "committee sharing" and "compromise", but as soon as they took power again, they kicked the Republicans to the curb. Barak Obama ran on a promise to be the "most transparent Administration ever" and promised he would work to be "President for all the people." But once he got elected, it was "Elections have consequences, shut up, Republicans."

I've seen Republicans do stupid things, hypocritical things, but I've also seen them taken down, chastised and removed by their own Party. I've seen Democrats be hypocritical, thieving, raping, murdering (2nd degree), tax evading jerks and not only has their Party defended them; it's lauded them for their "sensitivity", or their "compassion."

 

[Compuvette]

Statistics are like whores, play with them long enough and they'll do anything for you.

I normally don't jump in on this, but do you believe more people have jobs than 2008? Do we have less debt? What do you think the facts are?