Vaccine coercion/bribery

[rooster]

How come when the vaccinated go against CDC and FDA guidance going for a 3rd shot they get a pat on the back?

 

[wtburnette]

There are several here who seem to know the answer to lots more questions than I do.

I would say that's because they're keeping a more open mind. Facts are hard to come by right now. You have to look at the information presented and decide what you will accept. Do I accept what's being put out by multiple sites that are lesser known, or believe what's being put out by lying ass Dr. Ouchie, the MSM and the POS administration? For some of us the answer is pretty simple. I don't believe a damn thing put out by MSM or the administration and less and less what is put out by hospitals, as they've all been caught lying through their teeth during this entire "pandemic".

 

[Shadow01]

The war against medical choice continues locally

Woman suing Indianapolis hospital that refuses to give her mother ivermectin for COVID treatment

The lawsuit was filed in Marion County Circuit Court by a daughter whose mother is hospitalized at Ascension St. Vincent on 86th Street in Indianapolis.

www.wthr.com

They need to move the patient to a facility that is using the “cocktail “ as treatment. Several are now providing this as an alternative. The hospital is not wrong here.

 

[CTBay]

My dad would probably be right here in this thread going on about all the vaccine conspiracy theories. He isn’t though. He went to the local hospital three weeks ago because he couldn’t breathe. He took a helicopter ride to Indianapolis. He was put on a ventilator. Had to knock him out for that and he hasn’t been awake since. They recently had to cut a hole in his throat. Once you been on the vent a while you need food. If they feed you with the vent down your throat it could cause another infection. So they cut a hole in your thought. He has started to develop secondary infection and went from 4 IVs to like 8. They are culturing the infection so they can identify it and provide target antibiotics instead of broad spectrum. Now he is developing blood clots in his legs. So much drugs at this point his kidneys are giving up, he went on dialysis yesterday. Im still hopeful he will make it.

I got the vaccine the very second it was available to me. It caused my heart rate to go from 65/70 to 150 after about 2 min when I was sitting in the waiting room. I felt like I was about to pass out, grabbed a nurse, and then it subsided. Second shot I was incredibly nervous. I bought one of those heart rate things you clip on your finger before I went in. Sure enough, same thing happened the second time. It appears my heart really doesn’t like that vaccine. I have had pneumonia in the past. Fighting for breath scares me more than a little heart spike.

My mom got sick same time as my dad. She got over it in a few days like most. They had convinced each other not to get vaccinated. She couldn’t go in the hospital with him. How sad was that.

Don’t get a vaccine and you will probably just get a little sick for a couple days. BUT you might also DIE suffering and alone.

I am all about freedom. I think anyone should be free do whatever they like so far as it doesn’t infringe on anyone else doing whatever they like. Responsible adults should be able to have any arms they like. Gay people should be able to get married. Drugs should not be illegal just like suicide isn’t illegal. People should be free to kill themselves if thats what they are bent on doing. Unfortunately the law doesn’t care what I think.

At no point in time have you ever had a right to hurt someone else. You haven’t, don’t, and won’t ever have that right. Everyone has a right to life and you taking or shortening someone else has always been and will always be illegal. If you are unvaccinated and untested out in public spewing your virus spit everywhere for others to breathe, making others sick, you are an *******. That is not a right. Never has been, never will be. I wouldn’t pull my gun out and wave it around just like I wouldn’t go out unvaccinated spewing virus all over everything for other innocent people to pick up.

If you don’t want to get vaccinated, fine. The government shouldn’t force you. But you should be ban from being in any public space with other people. You should stay your ass at home until its over. Not getting a vaccine probably won’t kill you. But it might. Just because it didn’t doesn’t mean you should encourage others not to get it. That is where you’re wrong. It very well could kill them. Unvaccinated? You should get fired. Maybe you can have your job back when its over but there will probably need to be some discussion about your poor decision making and lack of teamwork before you are re-hired. I wouldn’t hire you back if I had to fire you for attempting to make your co-workers sick. You think you have a right to your job? You don’t. Indiana is an at will state. They don’t need any reason at all to fire you. IU has no more unvaccinated employees. They all got fired on the same day. Good for them!

Both my mom and dad were sick back in May and they got over it. This might be why they thought they were safe. The Delta variant is what get them now. It is very real.

I don’t need to see bloody car accidents to understand why I need to drive carefully. Thats for teenagers. Why do you need to see people dying before you believe this thing is real? Are you a child?

You should get a vaccine. No it’s probably not 100% safe. No the government shouldn’t force you. You should take it anyway. You are not making a political statement in not getting it. Nobody really cares if you get it or not just like nobody cares if you live or die, aside from your family. The “stand” you are taking is recognized by nobody. Nobody cares. You changed nothing. You probably just made it worse and harmed a bunch of other people on your highway to hell. You’re a delusional retard.

Unvaccinated? Screw You. You’re an idiot. Boot me from the forum if you like.

 

[jsharmon7]

Merck medication cuts severe outcomes by half.

The trials for this medication focused on people at high risk for developing severe cases. 14% in the control group were hospitalized or dead after 30 days. 7% in the treatment group.

If this is FDA approved, does this end some of the argument for forced vaccination? Sure, you’re still getting sick from Covid, but the risk is cut substantially. Also, if the vaccine prevents severe cases, and everyone will be required to get it (in theory), what’s the point of the pill?

 

[rooster]

My dad would probably be right here in this thread going on about all the vaccine conspiracy theories. He isn’t though. He went to the local hospital three weeks ago because he couldn’t breathe. He took a helicopter ride to Indianapolis. He was put on a ventilator. Had to knock him out for that and he hasn’t been awake since. They recently had to cut a hole in his throat. Once you been on the vent a while you need food. If they feed you with the vent down your throat it could cause another infection. So they cut a hole in your thought. He has started to develop secondary infection and went from 4 IVs to like 8. They are culturing the infection so they can identify it and provide target antibiotics instead of broad spectrum. Now he is developing blood clots in his legs. So much drugs at this point his kidneys are giving up, he went on dialysis yesterday. Im still hopeful he will make it.

I got the vaccine the very second it was available to me. It caused my heart rate to go from 65/70 to 150 after about 2 min when I was sitting in the waiting room. I felt like I was about to pass out, grabbed a nurse, and then it subsided. Second shot I was incredibly nervous. I bought one of those heart rate things you clip on your finger before I went in. Sure enough, same thing happened the second time. It appears my heart really doesn’t like that vaccine. I have had pneumonia in the past. Fighting for breath scares me more than a little heart spike.

My mom got sick same time as my dad. She got over it in a few days like most. They had convinced each other not to get vaccinated. She couldn’t go in the hospital with him. How sad was that.

Don’t get a vaccine and you will probably just get a little sick for a couple days. BUT you might also DIE suffering and alone.

I am all about freedom. I think anyone should be free do whatever they like so far as it doesn’t infringe on anyone else doing whatever they like. Responsible adults should be able to have any arms they like. Gay people should be able to get married. Drugs should not be illegal just like suicide isn’t illegal. People should be free to kill themselves if thats what they are bent on doing. Unfortunately the law doesn’t care what I think.

At no point in time have you ever had a right to hurt someone else. You haven’t, don’t, and won’t ever have that right. Everyone has a right to life and you taking or shortening someone else has always been and will always be illegal. If you are unvaccinated and untested out in public spewing your virus spit everywhere for others to breathe, making others sick, you are an *******. That is not a right. Never has been, never will be. I wouldn’t pull my gun out and wave it around just like I wouldn’t go out unvaccinated spewing virus all over everything for other innocent people to pick up.

If you don’t want to get vaccinated, fine. The government shouldn’t force you. But you should be ban from being in any public space with other people. You should stay your ass at home until its over. Not getting a vaccine probably won’t kill you. But it might. Just because it didn’t doesn’t mean you should encourage others not to get it. That is where you’re wrong. It very well could kill them. Unvaccinated? You should get fired. Maybe you can have your job back when its over but there will probably need to be some discussion about your poor decision making and lack of teamwork before you are re-hired. I wouldn’t hire you back if I had to fire you for attempting to make your co-workers sick. You think you have a right to your job? You don’t. Indiana is an at will state. They don’t need any reason at all to fire you. IU has no more unvaccinated employees. They all got fired on the same day. Good for them!

Both my mom and dad were sick back in May and they got over it. This might be why they thought they were safe. The Delta variant is what get them now. It is very real.

I don’t need to see bloody car accidents to understand why I need to drive carefully. Thats for teenagers. Why do you need to see people dying before you believe this thing is real? Are you a child?

You should get a vaccine. No it’s probably not 100% safe. No the government shouldn’t force you. You should take it anyway. You are not making a political statement in not getting it. Nobody really cares if you get it or not just like nobody cares if you live or die, aside from your family. The “stand” you are taking is recognized by nobody. Nobody cares. You changed nothing. You probably just made it worse and harmed a bunch of other people on your highway to hell. You’re a delusional retard.

Unvaccinated? Screw You. You’re an idiot. Boot me from the forum if you like.

 

[wtburnette]

My dad would probably be right here in this thread going on about all the vaccine conspiracy theories. He isn’t though. He went to the local hospital three weeks ago because he couldn’t breathe. He took a helicopter ride to Indianapolis. He was put on a ventilator. Had to knock him out for that and he hasn’t been awake since. They recently had to cut a hole in his throat. Once you been on the vent a while you need food. If they feed you with the vent down your throat it could cause another infection. So they cut a hole in your thought. He has started to develop secondary infection and went from 4 IVs to like 8. They are culturing the infection so they can identify it and provide target antibiotics instead of broad spectrum. Now he is developing blood clots in his legs. So much drugs at this point his kidneys are giving up, he went on dialysis yesterday. Im still hopeful he will make it.

I got the vaccine the very second it was available to me. It caused my heart rate to go from 65/70 to 150 after about 2 min when I was sitting in the waiting room. I felt like I was about to pass out, grabbed a nurse, and then it subsided. Second shot I was incredibly nervous. I bought one of those heart rate things you clip on your finger before I went in. Sure enough, same thing happened the second time. It appears my heart really doesn’t like that vaccine. I have had pneumonia in the past. Fighting for breath scares me more than a little heart spike.

My mom got sick same time as my dad. She got over it in a few days like most. They had convinced each other not to get vaccinated. She couldn’t go in the hospital with him. How sad was that.

Don’t get a vaccine and you will probably just get a little sick for a couple days. BUT you might also DIE suffering and alone.

I am all about freedom. I think anyone should be free do whatever they like so far as it doesn’t infringe on anyone else doing whatever they like. Responsible adults should be able to have any arms they like. Gay people should be able to get married. Drugs should not be illegal just like suicide isn’t illegal. People should be free to kill themselves if thats what they are bent on doing. Unfortunately the law doesn’t care what I think.

At no point in time have you ever had a right to hurt someone else. You haven’t, don’t, and won’t ever have that right. Everyone has a right to life and you taking or shortening someone else has always been and will always be illegal. If you are unvaccinated and untested out in public spewing your virus spit everywhere for others to breathe, making others sick, you are an *******. That is not a right. Never has been, never will be. I wouldn’t pull my gun out and wave it around just like I wouldn’t go out unvaccinated spewing virus all over everything for other innocent people to pick up.

If you don’t want to get vaccinated, fine. The government shouldn’t force you. But you should be ban from being in any public space with other people. You should stay your ass at home until its over. Not getting a vaccine probably won’t kill you. But it might. Just because it didn’t doesn’t mean you should encourage others not to get it. That is where you’re wrong. It very well could kill them. Unvaccinated? You should get fired. Maybe you can have your job back when its over but there will probably need to be some discussion about your poor decision making and lack of teamwork before you are re-hired. I wouldn’t hire you back if I had to fire you for attempting to make your co-workers sick. You think you have a right to your job? You don’t. Indiana is an at will state. They don’t need any reason at all to fire you. IU has no more unvaccinated employees. They all got fired on the same day. Good for them!

Both my mom and dad were sick back in May and they got over it. This might be why they thought they were safe. The Delta variant is what get them now. It is very real.

I don’t need to see bloody car accidents to understand why I need to drive carefully. Thats for teenagers. Why do you need to see people dying before you believe this thing is real? Are you a child?

You should get a vaccine. No it’s probably not 100% safe. No the government shouldn’t force you. You should take it anyway. You are not making a political statement in not getting it. Nobody really cares if you get it or not just like nobody cares if you live or die, aside from your family. The “stand” you are taking is recognized by nobody. Nobody cares. You changed nothing. You probably just made it worse and harmed a bunch of other people on your highway to hell. You’re a delusional retard.

Unvaccinated? Screw You. You’re an idiot. Boot me from the forum if you like.

Sorry, but you're just ignorant of a little thing called facts. I'm sorry to hear about your Father, but that doesn't give you the right to come in here spewing garbage. Vaccinated people can get, pass and die from the virus the same as the unvaccinated, so that makes your argument nothing but a pile of .

 

[wtburnette]

Merck medication cuts severe outcomes by half.

The trials for this medication focused on people at high risk for developing severe cases. 14% in the control group were hospitalized or dead after 30 days. 7% in the treatment group.

If this is FDA approved, does this end some of the argument for forced vaccination? Sure, you’re still getting sick from Covid, but the risk is cut substantially. Also, if the vaccine prevents severe cases, and everyone will be required to get it (in theory), what’s the point of the pill?

Maybe someone somewhere has a clue that there are a certain percentage of Americans who will never get the jab?

 

[jsharmon7]

CTBay-

I’m sorry your father is doing poorly. Hopefully he does make it through this and you get many more years together.

Your post, however, is all over the place. It seems like you’re posting from an emotional place rather than logical. Maybe you don’t care about INGO or getting kicked off, but you definitely will be when you call people “retards.” Hopefully you’ll consider stepping back until your mind is right so you can stay in our community.

 

[foszoe]

Maybe

My dad would probably be right here in this thread going on about all the vaccine conspiracy theories. He isn’t though. He went to the local hospital three weeks ago because he couldn’t breathe. He took a helicopter ride to Indianapolis. He was put on a ventilator. Had to knock him out for that and he hasn’t been awake since. They recently had to cut a hole in his throat. Once you been on the vent a while you need food. If they feed you with the vent down your throat it could cause another infection. So they cut a hole in your thought. He has started to develop secondary infection and went from 4 IVs to like 8. They are culturing the infection so they can identify it and provide target antibiotics instead of broad spectrum. Now he is developing blood clots in his legs. So much drugs at this point his kidneys are giving up, he went on dialysis yesterday. Im still hopeful he will make it.

I got the vaccine the very second it was available to me. It caused my heart rate to go from 65/70 to 150 after about 2 min when I was sitting in the waiting room. I felt like I was about to pass out, grabbed a nurse, and then it subsided. Second shot I was incredibly nervous. I bought one of those heart rate things you clip on your finger before I went in. Sure enough, same thing happened the second time. It appears my heart really doesn’t like that vaccine. I have had pneumonia in the past. Fighting for breath scares me more than a little heart spike.

My mom got sick same time as my dad. She got over it in a few days like most. They had convinced each other not to get vaccinated. She couldn’t go in the hospital with him. How sad was that.

Don’t get a vaccine and you will probably just get a little sick for a couple days. BUT you might also DIE suffering and alone.

I am all about freedom. I think anyone should be free do whatever they like so far as it doesn’t infringe on anyone else doing whatever they like. Responsible adults should be able to have any arms they like. Gay people should be able to get married. Drugs should not be illegal just like suicide isn’t illegal. People should be free to kill themselves if thats what they are bent on doing. Unfortunately the law doesn’t care what I think.

At no point in time have you ever had a right to hurt someone else. You haven’t, don’t, and won’t ever have that right. Everyone has a right to life and you taking or shortening someone else has always been and will always be illegal. If you are unvaccinated and untested out in public spewing your virus spit everywhere for others to breathe, making others sick, you are an *******. That is not a right. Never has been, never will be. I wouldn’t pull my gun out and wave it around just like I wouldn’t go out unvaccinated spewing virus all over everything for other innocent people to pick up.

If you don’t want to get vaccinated, fine. The government shouldn’t force you. But you should be ban from being in any public space with other people. You should stay your ass at home until its over. Not getting a vaccine probably won’t kill you. But it might. Just because it didn’t doesn’t mean you should encourage others not to get it. That is where you’re wrong. It very well could kill them. Unvaccinated? You should get fired. Maybe you can have your job back when its over but there will probably need to be some discussion about your poor decision making and lack of teamwork before you are re-hired. I wouldn’t hire you back if I had to fire you for attempting to make your co-workers sick. You think you have a right to your job? You don’t. Indiana is an at will state. They don’t need any reason at all to fire you. IU has no more unvaccinated employees. They all got fired on the same day. Good for them!

Both my mom and dad were sick back in May and they got over it. This might be why they thought they were safe. The Delta variant is what get them now. It is very real.

I don’t need to see bloody car accidents to understand why I need to drive carefully. Thats for teenagers. Why do you need to see people dying before you believe this thing is real? Are you a child?

You should get a vaccine. No it’s probably not 100% safe. No the government shouldn’t force you. You should take it anyway. You are not making a political statement in not getting it. Nobody really cares if you get it or not just like nobody cares if you live or die, aside from your family. The “stand” you are taking is recognized by nobody. Nobody cares. You changed nothing. You probably just made it worse and harmed a bunch of other people on your highway to hell. You’re a delusional retard.

Unvaccinated? Screw You. You’re an idiot. Boot me from the forum if you like.

Maybe delete the last sentence.

 

[wtburnette]

Maybe

Maybe delete the last sentence.

The problem is, due to personal emotional issues, he's been drinking the on the vaccine. How getting mad at unvaccinated people would help anyone is beyond my understanding, except that the people in power have said so, without any proof at all.

 

[drillsgt]

Maybe

Maybe delete the last sentence.

That's where you thought it went off the rails lol. How about deleting anything after the second paragraph.

 

[buckwacker]

My dad would probably be right here in this thread going on about all the vaccine conspiracy theories. He isn’t though. He went to the local hospital three weeks ago because he couldn’t breathe. He took a helicopter ride to Indianapolis. He was put on a ventilator. Had to knock him out for that and he hasn’t been awake since. They recently had to cut a hole in his throat. Once you been on the vent a while you need food. If they feed you with the vent down your throat it could cause another infection. So they cut a hole in your thought. He has started to develop secondary infection and went from 4 IVs to like 8. They are culturing the infection so they can identify it and provide target antibiotics instead of broad spectrum. Now he is developing blood clots in his legs. So much drugs at this point his kidneys are giving up, he went on dialysis yesterday. Im still hopeful he will make it.

I got the vaccine the very second it was available to me. It caused my heart rate to go from 65/70 to 150 after about 2 min when I was sitting in the waiting room. I felt like I was about to pass out, grabbed a nurse, and then it subsided. Second shot I was incredibly nervous. I bought one of those heart rate things you clip on your finger before I went in. Sure enough, same thing happened the second time. It appears my heart really doesn’t like that vaccine. I have had pneumonia in the past. Fighting for breath scares me more than a little heart spike.

My mom got sick same time as my dad. She got over it in a few days like most. They had convinced each other not to get vaccinated. She couldn’t go in the hospital with him. How sad was that.

Don’t get a vaccine and you will probably just get a little sick for a couple days. BUT you might also DIE suffering and alone.

I am all about freedom. I think anyone should be free do whatever they like so far as it doesn’t infringe on anyone else doing whatever they like. Responsible adults should be able to have any arms they like. Gay people should be able to get married. Drugs should not be illegal just like suicide isn’t illegal. People should be free to kill themselves if thats what they are bent on doing. Unfortunately the law doesn’t care what I think.

At no point in time have you ever had a right to hurt someone else. You haven’t, don’t, and won’t ever have that right. Everyone has a right to life and you taking or shortening someone else has always been and will always be illegal. If you are unvaccinated and untested out in public spewing your virus spit everywhere for others to breathe, making others sick, you are an *******. That is not a right. Never has been, never will be. I wouldn’t pull my gun out and wave it around just like I wouldn’t go out unvaccinated spewing virus all over everything for other innocent people to pick up.

If you don’t want to get vaccinated, fine. The government shouldn’t force you. But you should be ban from being in any public space with other people. You should stay your ass at home until its over. Not getting a vaccine probably won’t kill you. But it might. Just because it didn’t doesn’t mean you should encourage others not to get it. That is where you’re wrong. It very well could kill them. Unvaccinated? You should get fired. Maybe you can have your job back when its over but there will probably need to be some discussion about your poor decision making and lack of teamwork before you are re-hired. I wouldn’t hire you back if I had to fire you for attempting to make your co-workers sick. You think you have a right to your job? You don’t. Indiana is an at will state. They don’t need any reason at all to fire you. IU has no more unvaccinated employees. They all got fired on the same day. Good for them!

Both my mom and dad were sick back in May and they got over it. This might be why they thought they were safe. The Delta variant is what get them now. It is very real.

I don’t need to see bloody car accidents to understand why I need to drive carefully. Thats for teenagers. Why do you need to see people dying before you believe this thing is real? Are you a child?

You should get a vaccine. No it’s probably not 100% safe. No the government shouldn’t force you. You should take it anyway. You are not making a political statement in not getting it. Nobody really cares if you get it or not just like nobody cares if you live or die, aside from your family. The “stand” you are taking is recognized by nobody. Nobody cares. You changed nothing. You probably just made it worse and harmed a bunch of other people on your highway to hell. You’re a delusional retard.

Unvaccinated? Screw You. You’re an idiot. Boot me from the forum if you like.

 

[foszoe]

The problem is, due to personal emotional issues, he's been drinking the on the vaccine. How getting mad at unvaccinated people would help anyone is beyond my understanding, except that the people in power have said so, without any proof at all.

I am trying to be more open minded.

 

[phylodog]

Unvaccinated? Screw You. You’re an idiot. Boot me from the forum if you like.

I was gonna say sorry to hear about your Dad but you’re allowing emotion to overcome intellect so I won’t bother. Enjoy your lifetime of shots and lies.

 

[wtburnette]

I am trying to be more open minded.

A laudable goal, I'm just not sure how it applies in his case.

 

[foszoe]

That's where you thought it went off the rails lol. How about deleting anything after the second paragraph.

I read strong opinions from all sides. Usually more from your perspective than others. His language wasn't any more abrasive than Hatin, Printcraft, wrburnette, Phylodog, you...

Opinions don't bother me much.

So yeah. Last sentence.

 

[wtburnette]

I read strong opinions from all sides. Usually more from your perspective than others. His language wasn't any more abrasive than Hatin, Printcraft, wrburnette, Phylodog, you...

Opinions don't bother me much.

So yeah. Last sentence.

I'm so proud to have made it on your list and with such esteemed company.

 

[drillsgt]

I read strong opinions from all sides. Usually more from your perspective than others. His language wasn't any more abrasive than Hatin, Printcraft, wrburnette, Phylodog, you...

Opinions don't bother me much.

So yeah. Last sentence.

I don't know if i'd call us abrasive...

 

[Leadeye]

I'm still unable to understand how demonizing unvaccinated people is helping.