trump

[17 squirrel]

You decided to stay after Obama was elected twice, so I figure I can do it, too.

If you are going to live vicariously through me, you need to pay better attention.

 

[Kutnupe14]

You decided to stay after Obama was elected twice, so I figure I can do it, too.

Ditto. But he and a many others are counting on the opposite if Trump is elected.

 

[miguel]

One would assume, since this operation succeeded in shutting down the Trump rally, that we will see it continue to occur in the future. I think it will become difficult for Trump and eventually any Republican to hold a campaign event near an urban center. In the old days, the mayor would not allow such lawlessness because the citizens in the city would vote him out of office for it. Now if he doesn't allow the lawlessness, he might get voted out.

And this is how, in Weimar, "supplemental security forces" came to be.

If the service being paid for (via taxes) isn't supported, the void will be filled.

 

[Que]

Ditto. But he and a many others are counting on the opposite if Trump is elected.

 

[Kutnupe14]

While I still don't like him, last night sure makes me feel that voting for him, assuming he get the nomination, is important.

Well here's the thing. And I get where you say you "feel like voting for him." Do you feel like voting for him because he has put forth a platform that you agree with and that he realistically able to have passed? Or do you feel like voting for him because he's not PC.

-Fact is Trump won't build a wall that Mexico will pay for (or a wall at all)
-Trump isn't going to have people checked out simply for being Muslims
-Trump isn't going to target relatives of terrorists, simply due to being related
-Trump won't get parity economically with the Chinese... the same Chinese that hold 1.2 TRILLION in our debt

These are promises that simply can't be kept. It's scary that people that follow Trump simply on his platform are that naïve... but then again, people think other Trump is going to Make America "Great" Again in "other" ways.... which is hilarious unto itself.

 

[mammynun]

Well here's the thing. And I get where you say you "feel like voting for him." Do you feel like voting for him because he has put forth a platform that you agree with and that he realistically able to have passed? Or do you feel like voting for him because he's not PC.

-Fact is Trump won't build a wall that Mexico will pay for (or a wall at all)
-Trump isn't going to have people checked out simply for being Muslims
-Trump isn't going to target relatives of terrorists, simply due to being related
-Trump won't get parity economically with the Chinese... the same Chinese that hold 1.2 TRILLION in our debt

These are promises that simply can't be kept. It's scary that people that follow Trump simply on his platform are that naïve... but then again, people think other Trump is going to Make America "Great" Again in "other" ways.... which is hilarious unto itself.

If he's the nominee, I will vote for him because his positions are the closest to mine. Not a match, but closest.

What has changed is the PC aspect. Before my vote for Trump would have been against Sanders or Clinton. After last night, my vote is turning towards a vote for Trump. Purely a change in mindset, but still a change.

 

[indiucky]

I have tried to imagine conservatives threatening to storm the stage of an Obama Rally, a Sanders rally, or a Clinton rally and I just don't see it....After reading many of the posts here is is supposedly very "American" to do so but I would not feel very "American" if I tried to shut down someone's voice that I don't agree with...

My understanding is that Sanders held a rally at Liberty University and was treated with respect by the students there....Comparisons have been made comparing Trump and Trump supporters to "Hitler" and "Nazi's" but what I saw on display in Chicago seemed more in line with the tenets of National Socialism and Brown Shirts than anything I have seen on the right...

IMHO....

 

[Kutnupe14]

If he's the nominee, I will vote for him because his positions are the closest to mine. Not a match, but closest.

What has changed is the PC aspect. Before my vote for Trump would have been against Sanders or Clinton. After last night, my vote is turning towards a vote for Trump. Purely a change in mindset, but still a change

Not to put you on the spot, but it appears that you are saying that you are more inclined to vote for Trump because of the perception his opponents have about him, not because of his policies. In other words, it's an "out of spite" vote.

 

[mammynun]

If he's the nominee, I will vote for him because his positions are the closest to mine. Not a match, but closest.

What has changed is the PC aspect. Before my vote for Trump would have been against Sanders or Clinton. After last night, my vote is turning towards a vote for Trump. Purely a change in mindset, but still a change

Not to put you on the spot, but it appears that you are saying that you are more inclined to vote for Trump because of the perception his opponents have about him, not because of his policies. In other words, it's an "out of spite" vote.

 

[miguel]

Yes, and I, for one, reach the point where when I am going to be included in the blame for a problem, contributing on my terms becomes a very tempting response. They want to break car windows for the audacity of stickers not supporting leftists? Leave someone in the parking area to split heads open with .308 boat tails. Sh*t will stop pretty quick.

Amen. When Leftists keep saying, "You <Tea Party/Republican/NRA member/CIS gender/Christian/whatever> do X, Y and Z to keep us down!" but X, Y and Z are not being done by said group members, the group members at some point may well embrace X, Y and Z to show them what it would really be like were it to be done. In simpler terms, if a kid is going to have his hand slapped for taking a cookie he isn't taking, he might as well take a cookie if his hand is going to continue to be slapped.

It is entertaining to hear the, and I paraphrase, "Hey, this isn't any different than the guy getting punched at the Trump rally the other day!" argument. I think one guy spontaneously punching another guy who is already being thrown out of an in-progress rally is an event on a rather different scale than scores or hundreds of people -- non-spontaneously, mind you -- making a stink to prevent an event from happening at all. That said, I still stand by my earlier post, in another thread, supporting more punches to the faces of Americans. If someone(s) want to disrupt a rally, knock yourselves -- or someone else -- out, frankly.

But in doing so, they should keep in mind the possibility that things can escalate unexpectedly. After decades of leftists and statists being accustomed to having their way in society doing things like this, with full media support or at least no media objection -- as would a bunch of spoiled ****-like children, which they are -- they should be aware that at some point, the gloves will be taken off by the other side. And if they think the imaginary and projected transgressions and micro-aggressions of their adversaries have been bad to this point, the real McCoy is going to be a real tough bit o' rawhide for them dogs to chew.

I have tried to imagine conservatives threatening to storm the stage of an Obama Rally, a Sanders rally, or a Clinton rally and I just don't see it....After reading many of the posts here is is supposedly very "American" to do so but I would not feel very "American" if I tried to shut down someone's voice that I don't agree with...

My understanding is that Sanders held a rally at Liberty University and was treated with respect by the students there....Comparisons have been made comparing Trump and Trump supporters to "Hitler" and "Nazi's" but what I saw on display in Chicago seemed more in line with the tenets of National Socialism and Brown Shirts than anything I have seen on the right...

IMHO....

This. At some point someone is going to say, "Let's go!" and do this at some pinko's rally. Then the media will treat it like Charles Manson and Nathan Bedford Forrest are riding into town on ghost horses. Truly.

 

[Kutnupe14]

I have tried to imagine conservatives threatening to storm the stage of an Obama Rally, a Sanders rally, or a Clinton rally and I just don't see it.... After reading many of the posts here is is supposedly very "American" to do so but I would not feel very "American" if I tried to shut down someone's voice that I don't agree with...

My understanding is that Sanders held a rally at Liberty University and was treated with respect by the students there....Comparisons have been made comparing Trump and Trump supporters to "Hitler" and "Nazi's" but what I saw on display in Chicago seemed more in line with the tenets of National Socialism and Brown Shirts than anything I have seen on the right...

IMHO....

Who knows, attendees at Trump rallies had no issue roughing up one or two people.... but seem to be a little more hesitant when the group is much larger. Typical bully behavior.

 

[indiucky]

In other words, it's an "out of spite" vote.

When Democrats choose a candidate it's out of respect and belief in the greater good...When Republicans vote for someone it's out of "spite" or because voters are "very angry..."

Interesting take....In line with our media handlers on the coasts....

 

[indiucky]

Typical bully behavior.

The protesters or the Trump supporters????

 

[Kutnupe14]

Amen. When Leftists keep saying, "You <Tea Party/Republican/NRA member/CIS gender/Christian/whatever> do X, Y and Z to keep us down!" but X, Y and Z are not being done by said group members, the group members at some point may well embrace X, Y and Z to show them what it would really be like were it to be done. In simpler terms, if a kid is going to have his hand slapped for taking a cookie he isn't taking, he might as well take a cookie if his hand is going to continue to be slapped.

It is entertaining to hear the, and I paraphrase, "Hey, this isn't any different than the guy getting punched at the Trump rally the other day!" argument. I think one guy punching another guy who is already being thrown out of an in-progress rally is an event on a rather different scale than scores or hundreds of people -- non-spontaneously, mind you -- making a stink to prevent an event from happening at all. That said, I still stand by my earlier post, in another thread, supporting more punches in the faces of Americans. If someone(s) want to disrupt a rally, knock yourselves -- or someone else -- out, frankly.

But in doing so, they should keep in mind the possibility that things can escalate unexpectedly. After decades of leftists and statists being accustomed to having their way in society doing things like this, with full media support or at least no media objection -- as would a bunch of spoiled ****-like children, which they are -- they should be aware that at some point, the gloves will be taken off by the other side. And if they think the imaginary and projected transgressions and micro-aggressions of their adversaries have been bad to this point, the real McCoy is going to be a real tough bit o' rawhide for them dogs to chew.

Lol, what in the world gives you that belief? Faux conservatives haven't been able to punch their way out of a wet paper bag for over a decade. This essentially is the last gasp of a sinking ideology. Hopefully legit conservatives will fill the vacuum.

 

[Kutnupe14]

The protesters or the Trump supporters????

Both actually

 

[mammynun]

If he's the nominee, I will vote for him because his positions are the closest to mine. Not a match, but closest.

What has changed is the PC aspect. Before my vote for Trump would have been against Sanders or Clinton. After last night, my vote is turning towards a vote for Trump. Purely a change in mindset, but still a change

Not to put you on the spot, but it appears that you are saying that you are more inclined to vote for Trump because of the perception his opponents have about him, not because of his policies. In other words, it's an "out of spite" vote.

Negative. The reality of what his opponents stand for serves to make Trump more palatable. I don't see Trump's policies being any more in line with my ideal, but I do see the opposition's positions moving farther away.

Given the choice between benign skin cancer and malignant pancreatic cancer, I choose benign. I don't call that spite, but I'll admit to distasteful pragmatism.

 

[OutdoorDad]

Usually, I'm pretty good at figuring this stuff out.
But I am stumped on this one:

"After decades of leftists and statists being accustomed to having their way in society doing things like this, with full media support or at least no media objection -- as would a bunch of spoiled ****-like children, which they are -- they should be aware that at some point, the gloves will be taken off by the other side."

Ive not a clue what those****are standing in for

 

[Kutnupe14]

When Democrats choose a candidate it's out of respect and belief in the greater good...When Republicans vote for someone it's out of "spite" or because voters are "very angry..."

Interesting take....In line with our media handlers on the coasts....

I doubt many people care about dwindling "very angry" Republicans anymore, or why they are angry. I just like the optimism they have in this election. I'm going to have to buy stock in tissues and travel agencies, because MAN there's going to be a heap of disappointment.

 

[Kutnupe14]

If he's the nominee, I will vote for him because his positions are the closest to mine. Not a match, but closest.

What has changed is the PC aspect. Before my vote for Trump would have been against Sanders or Clinton. After last night, my vote is turning towards a vote for Trump. Purely a change in mindset, but still a change

Negative. The reality of what his opponents stand for serves to make Trump more palatable. I don't see Trump's policies being any more in line with my ideal, but I do see the opposition's positions moving farther away.

Given the choice between benign skin cancer and malignant pancreatic cancer, I choose benign. I don't call that spite, but I'll admit to distasteful pragmatism.

Ok, thanks. That's your right.

 

[T.Lex]

So mob rule wins.

Only when cowards give in.

Trump's a coward.