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    Kutnupe14

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    The aspiration to impartiality should be part of every judge/justices personal framework.

    But people approach ideas and problems in different ways.

    On the judiciary, that may play out in different ways but is generally consistent with precedent.

    Hey! You're reading too much common sense into that. What she really means is that if a person that has spoken ill of Latinos comes into her courtroom, they will be ruled against, regardless of what the facts say! Dagnabit!
     

    printcraft

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    Hey! You're reading too much common sense into that. What she really means is that if a person that has spoken ill of Latinos comes into her courtroom, they will be ruled against, regardless of what the facts say! Dagnabit!

    If it's even a possibility she shouldn't be a judge. A klan member shouldn't be a judge or a senator.
    It's a black and white question. (no pun intended)
     

    T.Lex

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    Recuse themselves where a conflict of interest is possible.

    Exactly. What, again, would be the basis for recusal in the Trump U case? The judge's decisions have (apparently) been affirmed every time.

    BTW, in a quick google, before becoming a judge, Curiel was a prosecutor tasked with pursuing major felony and narcotics trafficking cases... from Mexico. He was even targeted for assassination by at least 1 cartel.

    In this specific case, he moved the trial date to after the election so as not to make it a controversy. That is something he was not legally required to do, but that could be understood to be doing Trump a favor.

    Not much evidence of prejudice.

    robert byrd should have never been a senator.
    Voters get to decide. :)

    Feel free, though remember, positions evolve............
    Sometimes in a matter of hours. :D
     

    Route 45

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    Why not? A person who adheres to Sharia shouldn't be judged by non-Sharia practitioners, right?

    I absolutely agree with you. No one who wants to live under Sharia law should be residents or citizens of the United States. Plenty of modern, first-world countries with Sharia law as the national standard for them to choose from.

    Always glad to find common ground! :)
     

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    BTW, is there any sense of irony in using old quotes to support current position, while ignoring disavowals and clarifications from the utterer. :D


    You mean like #NeverRelevants using Trump quotes from 2000 (AWB) but 'ignoring disavowals and clarifications from the utterer'? How utterly unsportsmanlike
     

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    Hey! You're reading too much common sense into that. What she really means is that if a person that has spoken ill of Latinos comes into her courtroom, they will be ruled against, regardless of what the facts say! Dagnabit!

    But I thought it was an article of faith among some that liberal judge appointees rule in favor of liberal causes because of their liberalness. Does this not belie any assumption of impartiality? Why even worry about who Godzillary will appoint to SCOTUS, then.
     

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    Welp, even by INGO standards the bad logic in this thread has reached EPIC levels.

    Kut (doesn't claim innocence, either, fyi)
     

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    But I thought it was an article of faith among some that liberal judge appointees rule in favor of liberal causes because of their liberalness. Does this not belie any assumption of impartiality? Why even worry about who Godzillary will appoint to SCOTUS, then.

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    Anyone who thinks him or herself to be completely unbiased and without racial prejudice is delusional.
     
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    ArcadiaGP

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    Anyone who thinks him or herself to be completely unbiased...

    I'm following you so far...

    and nonracist is delusional.

    Wait what. Bias and race can definitely be mutually exclusive things... A person can definitely be biased against many things... but I'm sure there are people that really don't care about race, and would therefore be, "nonracist"
     

    foszoe

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    I'm following you so far...



    Wait what. Bias and race can definitely be mutually exclusive things... A person can definitely be biased against many things... but I'm sure there are people that really don't care about race, and would therefore be, "nonracist"

    My answer may depend on how racism is defined. If I substituted " without racial prejudice" for non racist how would that strike you? I edited the original post to reflect that.
     

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    I think there's a misunderstanding: it looks to me like Expat used quotes to show that Trump thinks the rulings are bad, not that they are actually "bad." The implication is that the judge's rulings predate the specious "reason" for the rulings.

    IOW, Trump is basically retconning the personal animus.
    Otherwise the quotes would have served no purpose. I have no idea if the earlier rulings were bad, just that they were against Trump. At that point in time, Donald was still on record as criticizing Romney for being too tough on immigration.
     

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    The thing about this judge issue, is the amazing amounts of hypocrisy being illustrated in this thread.
     

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    The thing about this judge issue, is the amazing amounts of hypocrisy being illustrated in this thread.

    Oh Ya?
    Well, I am not prejudice in any way but yet, I believe a 100 foot electrified fence should be built on all our borders plus I'm voting for Trump.
    Stick that in your racist hat. :p





    There is nothing racist about protecting the country we live in.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    Oh Ya?
    Well, I am not prejudice in any way but yet, I believe a 100 foot electrified fence should be built on all our borders plus I'm voting for Trump.
    Stick that in your racist hat. :p

    What makes you believe that "I" don't want a fence put up? And exactly how is that racist?.... and I have a border plan that's way better and less expensive.
     
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