Trump 2024 ???

[actaeon277]

Aye

 

[foszoe]

Aye for an aye

That way we can have a voting controversy

 

[KG1]

Okay. Motion seconded. All those i favor of appointing @DoggyDaddy say aye. Opposed say nay.

My vote is an aye.

I nominate Tomato tomahto.

 

[Ziggidy]

Any criticisms of Trump at all regardless of how appropriate, you consider as bashing. Come n man. He’s a man. A mere mortal. An imperfect human. Humans make mistakes and what’s great about humans is that they can learn from mistakes and improve. How will he improve if he can’t admit he made a mistake? How can you become aware of the areas where he needs improvement if you can’t admit when he makes a mistake?

And just because people are criticizing him doesn’t make them want to vote for Democrats. Oze, Foz, KG1, GFGT, myself have all praised Trump for some good things he accomplished as well. I’d like a better Trump. Someone who can learn from mistakes.

Bottom line is you have difficulty with him because he does not do what you think he should. All due respect, you sound jealous of the man.

It would not matter what the alleged offense might be, you’re jealous and will find something to bash him on. It’s like if you put 2 cards in front of the man and asked him to pick one, then get mad and bash him for not picking the third card.

You need to understand, there is nothing to apologize for.

 

[Ziggidy]

Why is it so difficult to accept that someone you admire has faults. Everyone does. Picking someone to admire has tradeoffs.

I truly think you have an obsession with Trump and in your effort to bring out his faults, you are truly trying to find reason not to like him. I admire your admiration for the man.

 

[Ziggidy]

Yes, if you want to dig into the numbers enough you could prove that the vaccine did not save 100 million lives.

The infamous numbers game. What numbers, whose numbers, what days numbers……..

 

[KLB]

The infamous numbers game. What numbers, whose numbers, what days numbers……..

I get it, you idolize him. If you seriously think there is any accuracy in that claim, there really isn't much to discuss.

Any numbers. Death rates of the vaccinated. Death rates of the unvaccinated. You could take the most favorable numbers for the vaccine and not even sniff that number.

If you believe so much, go find some number somewhere that backs that claim up other than him saying it.

 

[KG1]

I get it, you idolize him. If you seriously think there is any accuracy in that claim, there really isn't much to discuss.

Any numbers. Death rates of the vaccinated. Death rates of the unvaccinated. You could take the most favorable numbers for the vaccine and not even sniff that number.

If you believe so much, go find some number somewhere that backs that claim up other than him saying it.

Trump says in an interview with Bret Baier he has a:

“Democrat friend who’s very smart” who has questioned why he doesn’t talk more about his work rolling out COVID vaccines.

“You may have saved in the world, throughout the world, 100 million people, and you never talk about it,” Trump recalled his friend telling him.

“There are people that say I saved 100 million lives. I don’t even talk about it,” Trump bragged.

I guess those numbers came from a "very smart Democrat friend."

 

[rhamersley]

Trump says in an interview with Bret Baier he has a:

“Democrat friend who’s very smart” who has questioned why he doesn’t talk more about his work rolling out COVID vaccines.

“You may have saved in the world, throughout the world, 100 million people, and you never talk about it,” Trump recalled his friend telling him.

“There are people that say I saved 100 million lives. I don’t even talk about it,” Trump bragged.

I guess those numbers came from a "very smart Democrat friend."

His son in law?

 

[jamil]

Bottom line is you have difficulty with him because he does not do what you think he should. All due respect, you sound jealous of the man.

It would not matter what the alleged offense might be, you’re jealous and will find something to bash him on. It’s like if you put 2 cards in front of the man and asked him to pick one, then get mad and bash him for not picking the third card.

You need to understand, there is nothing to apologize for.

Wait. Let me guess. I'm jealous of his perfection?




I mean if that's what gets you through a normal day in the political subforum...


I have defended Trump when I think he's in the right, and criticized him when I think he's in the wrong. That's what normal people do. They take in information. They make judgements. Given that I have defended Trump on many issues stands in stark contrast to your belief that it would not matter to me what the alleged offense might be. So if that's the foundation of your judgement of me that I'm simply jealous, it's not well supported by my post history.

Now. Let's consider your inability to notice anything wrong. Do you think your judgement is actually driving that? Given that no one is perfect, yet you can't find any imperfections, it seems it always goes one way. Why do you think that is? Bug, for example, I think has a more realistic outlook. He's not perfect. But good enough. I think that's a fair judgement.

I don't expect Trump to be perfect. In my opinion his temperamental proclivities detract from his ability to be as successful as he could be on the political stage. One of those is his inability to admit mistakes. He's likely to repeat them.

 

[jamil]

You need to understand, there is nothing to apologize for.

Forgot to address this. I never said he needs to apologize. He was suckered in a game he not only didn't know how to play, but didn't know was being played. I can't think of many people who would do any better in that position. I don't fault him for that.

I fault him for continuing to brag about the turd he helped lay. He doesn't even need to make a public acknowledgement. Just stop bragging about it.

Everyone who's sane and paying attention knows what's up with the vaccines. They don't work. And in some cases they cause harm. And we're learning more about how ****ed up the whole thing was from information obtained by forcing pharma to release it. It was a scam to make pharma mo money.

Anyway, I keep saying no apologies are necessary. An acknowledgement would be nice, but even if he quit bragging about it that would signal he understands he laid a turd. And that would be good because that's him learning from his mistakes. But no. You're gonna keep saying I'm saying things I didn't say.

 

[jamil]

I truly think you have an obsession with Trump and in your effort to bring out his faults, you are truly trying to find reason not to like him. I admire your admiration for the man.

Oh. Now I'm obsessed with Trump? This is a Trump thread. It's where we discuss things about Trump. When you say he's perfect, I think I have an obligation to reality to rebut that. I mean, I say no one's perfect and your response to that is to argue that he is? And that me saying he's not perfect is out of jealousy of his perfection? C'mon man.

 

[jamil]

The infamous numbers game. What numbers, whose numbers, what days numbers……..

Then how can you believe he's perfect? By what measure? Or are you just trying to go for the tie here? Well, he *could* be perfect. Because we can't prove he's not because numbers can lie.

 

[jamil]

Trump says in an interview with Bret Baier he has a:

“Democrat friend who’s very smart” who has questioned why he doesn’t talk more about his work rolling out COVID vaccines.

“You may have saved in the world, throughout the world, 100 million people, and you never talk about it,” Trump recalled his friend telling him.

“There are people that say I saved 100 million lives. I don’t even talk about it,” Trump bragged.

I guess those numbers came from a "very smart Democrat friend."

Uh. Maybe that Democrat "friend" is trying to sucker Trump into praising himself that he brought about a vaccine that his whole base believes is evil. Is there even such a thing as a Democrat friend? Are the two terms mutually exclusive?

I think it depends on whether the "friend" is a card carrying member of ClownWorld™. I don't think any ClownWorld™ clown can behave in good faith to an outsider. It's not possible. But, though rare these days, this "friend" may not be a ClownWorld™ Democrat.

 

[foszoe]

The infamous numbers game. What numbers, whose numbers, what days numbers……..

Start with the numbers Trump claims. That way you know they are right and never have to show your work or prove it to yourself and others.

 

[KG1]

Uh. Maybe that Democrat "friend" is trying to sucker Trump into praising himself that he brought about a vaccine that his whole base believes is evil. Is there even such a thing as a Democrat friend? Are the two terms mutually exclusive?

I think it depends on whether the "friend" is a card carrying member of ClownWorld™. I don't think any ClownWorld™ clown can behave in good faith to an outsider. It's not possible. But, though rare these days, this "friend" may not be a ClownWorld™ Democrat.

Trump says he doesn't talk about it while talking about it.

 

[jamil]

Trump says he doesn't talk about it while talking about it.

How do you not talk about saving the world?

 

[KG1]

How do you not talk about saving the world?

You don't talk about it because you are humble. You let your "very smart Democrat friend" talk about it. Trump says it's not me mind you that says I saved 100 million lives. It's my "very smart Democrat friend."

 

[jamil]

You don't talk about it because you are humble.

yeah, but being humble is for ****ies.

 

[Ingomike]

You don't talk about it because you are humble. You let your "very smart Democrat friend" talk about it. Trump says it's not me mind you that says I saved 100 million lives. It's my "very smart Democrat friend."

Humility is a form of arrogance…