Trump 2024 — The second term

[jamil]

The better question is why do self described conservatives constantly have to slight Trump?

Well I’m not gonna suck his ****. If there’s something to praise, I’ll praise. If there’s something to criticize I’ll criticize. Don’t get too bent out of shape about it.

 

[jamil]

This is true, but if the majority of one’s posts are negative toward Trump, especially when he was President it leads others to question one’s conservatism.

Trump isn’t conservative. He’s a populist. I don’t hold that against him though.

 

[KG1]

 

[Ingomike]

Yeah. You can see the wall from space. The swamp got drained. On and on. We’ve been through it before. He did some good stuff. He did some bad stuff. On balance more good than bad. That’s about the most an honest person can say about it.

An honest person would say Trump did more for the conservative agenda than any other republican President, which is why they are so focused on taking him down.

 

[jamil]

An honest person would say Trump did more for the conservative agenda than any other republican President, which is why they are so focused on taking him down.

He had some good policies while in office. Like I said, more good than bad. Ut we’ve already been through the discussion about lasting changes. If the next schmuck can just undo everything the previous guy did with a stroke of the same pen, what really got done?

 

[HKFaninCarmel]

He had some good policies while in office. Like I said, more good than bad. Ut we’ve already been through the discussion about lasting changes. If the next schmuck can just undo everything the previous guy did with a stroke of the same pen, what really got done?

Real conservatives like the kind of things they’ve done in states like Florida.

 

[Ingomike]

He had some good policies while in office. Like I said, more good than bad. Ut we’ve already been through the discussion about lasting changes. If the next schmuck can just undo everything the previous guy did with a stroke of the same pen, what really got done?

All beyond the control of any one man. I grade on what the man did, not what was beyond his control.

 

[Ingomike]

Real conservatives like the kind of things they’ve done in states like Florida.

And I do…

 

[foszoe]

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Well I’m not gonna suck his ****. If there’s something to praise, I’ll praise. If there’s something to criticize I’ll criticize. Don’t get too bent out of shape about it.

That's Peronis

 

[BugI02]

I think the mistake here is the idea that Trump is the only one.

Whatever lets you sleep at night

 

[BugI02]

No doubt about that. Trump has outstanding instincts about audiences. It doesn’t matter if he can deliver. It matters that his supporters believe he will.

Wrong. He already has delivered, and his supporters believe he will do so again

 

[BugI02]

Real conservatives like the kind of things they’ve done in states like Florida.

So 62% of likely republican voters aren't real conservatives? Are they real Scotsmen?

Edit: Dukakis was twice elected governor of Massachusetts, presiding over 8 years of growth and prosperity known as 'The Massachusetts Miracle' and being re-elected with a 37 point margin over his challenger - before failing miserably as a presidential candidate, carrying only 10 states and DC

DeSantis is Dukakis without the tank, seldom does success as a governor translate into success at the national level (See: Scott Walker)

 

[jamil]

Real conservatives like the kind of things they’ve done in states like Florida.

I like what DeSantis got done in FL. But you can do things when you have a legislature that’s supports the vision. Trump did have a legislature of his own party for a bit. I think some blame can be laid at his feet for not knowing how to work the machine. But they were openly hostile. They wanted the gravy train to stay on schedule. And if the swamp doesn’t want to be drained, prolly not gonna get drained.

 

[jamil]

All beyond the control of any one man. I grade on what the man did, not what was beyond his control.

I think you give him too much credit. You should be telling him don’t promish **** you can’t deliver. We’ve wanted to tell the neocons that. Why not tell anyone that applies to?

 

[BugI02]

I think you give him too much credit. You should be telling him don’t promish **** you can’t deliver. We’ve wanted to tell the neocons that. Why not tell anyone that applies to?

You mean like Super Ron promising to single-handedly end birthright citizenship for illegal aliens?

 

[jamil]

Whatever lets you sleep at night

I venerate no one. And I sleep just fine.

 

[jamil]

Wrong. He already has delivered, and his supporters believe he will do so again

Boy you guys are easily triggered. The point of the post wasn’t even about that.

 

[jamil]

So 62% of likely republican voters aren't real conservatives? Are they real Scotsmen?

Edit: Dukakis was twice elected governor of Massachusetts, presiding over 8 years of growth and prosperity known as 'The Massachusetts Miracle' and being re-elected with a 37 point margin over his challenger - before failing miserably as a presidential candidate, carrying only 10 states and DC

DeSantis is Dukakis without the tank, seldom does success as a governor translate into success at the national level (See: Scott Walker)

See Ronald Reagan.

 

[jamil]

You mean like Super Ron promising to single-handedly end birthright citizenship for illegal aliens?

Yeah. If he has no plans to deliver that, he shouldn’t promise it.

Did Trump not deliver on the wall because he couldn’t get Mexico to pay for it? He promised it because he knew his devoted followers would believe he would deliver. And as we discussed his remarks a little while ago on INGO, he had no intention of doing any such thing.

 

[BugI02]

See Ronald Reagan.

Carter, Clinton, W

So 1 in 4 in my lifetime, but it will be different this time, yes?