Trump 2024 — The second term

[HKFaninCarmel]

You want to know what candidates stand for? They’ll tell you. Do voters deserve to fall for their slogans? Actually. Yeah. Debates won’t change that.

I recall way back to the basement campaign for Biden where we were supposed to guess if he would pack the court or really anything Biden believed in. Did he tell us?

 

[Leadeye]

Leadership certainly is circling the wagons and sending out signals that all actions to defeat "Orange Hitler" will be considered righteous. Republicans should focus on Trumps VP because some purple haired crazy will shoot him if all else fails and he is elected. I suspect 2024 is going to look like a mix of jihad and the WWE.

 

[jamil]

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I think the mistake here is the idea that Trump is the only one.

 

[jamil]

I recall way back to the basement campaign for Biden where we were supposed to guess if he would pack the court or really anything Biden believed in. Did he tell us?

People voted for him. He didn’t need to say ****. The media covered for him. Convince America that Biden was saving America from literally Hitler.

 

[INPatriot]

I think the mistake here is the idea that Trump is the only one.

Trump has done a supreme job of capturing the emotion of the moment.

 

[jamil]

Trump has done a supreme job of capturing the emotion of the moment.

No doubt about that. Trump has outstanding instincts about audiences. It doesn’t matter if he can deliver. It matters that his supporters believe he will.

 

[Ingomike]

No doubt about that. Trump has outstanding instincts about audiences. It doesn’t matter if he can deliver. It matters that his supporters believe he will.

What a crock of **** post. TRUMP DID DELIVER. No one else in the race has delivered like Trump, not even close.

 

[Magyars]

I think the mistake here is the idea that Trump is the only one.

Name another?

 

[oze]

What a crock of **** post. TRUMP DID DELIVER. No one else in the race has delivered like Trump, not even close.

 

[LeftyGunner]

What a crock of **** post. TRUMP DID DELIVER. No one else in the race has delivered like Trump, not even close.

You are absolutely right about that…Trump delivered 81,000,000 votes directly to Biden in 2020.

Nobody delivers a loss to Biden as reliably as Trump.

Not even close.

 

[KLB]

What a crock of **** post. TRUMP DID DELIVER. No one else in the race has delivered like Trump, not even close.

Why are you always looking to get offended for Trump? Read what he said again.

No doubt about that. Trump has outstanding instincts about audiences. It doesn’t matter if he can deliver. It matters that his supporters believe he will.

Trump said things in his rallies he did not deliver. Is Hillary in jail? Did Mexico pay for the wall?

That doesn't mean he didn't do anything.

 

[Ingomike]

Ok, who in the debate has delivered more for conservatives than Trump? Not what folks hope for, delivered?

 

[Ingomike]

Why are you always looking to get offended for Trump? Read what he said again.

The better question is why do self described conservatives constantly have to slight Trump?

I couldn’t care less what lefty says, he is a leftist and is clear on that. What does frustrate me is those that claim to be conservative constantly harping with those negative waves, as DD calls them. If ones negative posts exceed their positive posts about Trump, then that person is helping the left not supporting the right.

Also, “Trump was good on xxxxxx, BUT“, and, “I hate what Trump did, but he did some good”, are still bashing statements that bolster the left’s attacks on Trump.

People are free to say as they wish but don’t claim the mantle of conservative while saying leftists talking points.

 

[KLB]

The better question is why do self described conservatives constantly have to slight Trump?

How are we defining conservative today? INGO can't agree on what one is, let alone the greater population. Trump is certainly not what most people would have considered an actual conservative.

I couldn’t care less what lefty says, he is a leftist and is clear on that. What does frustrate me is those that claim to be conservative constantly harping with those negative waves, as DD calls them. If ones negative posts exceed their positive posts about Trump, then that person is helping the left not supporting the right.

Also, “Trump was good on xxxxxx, BUT“, and, “I hate what Trump did, but he did some good”, are still bashing statements that bolster the left’s attacks on Trump.

Nobody here is helping any lefties. You think lefties are watching INGO looking for stuff to use to attack Trump?

Or maybe that someone here will read some of the negative stuff about Trump and decide "darn it, they are going to vote for Biden now!"

People are free to say as they wish but don’t claim the mantle of conservative while saying leftists talking points.

This is silly. Saying something negative about Trump does not mean someone cannot be conservative. Saying negative things about Trump are not leftist talking points, they are opinion or fact. Lefties may agree with them, but that does not make them theirs.

Hell, that statement wasn't even really negative about Trump, other than it contradicting the whole idea that Trump isn't a politician. He lies on the campaign trail just like the rest. So what?

 

[Ingomike]

This is silly. Saying something negative about Trump does not mean someone cannot be conservative.

This is true, but if the majority of one’s posts are negative toward Trump, especially when he was President it leads others to question one’s conservatism.

Saying negative things about Trump are not leftist talking points, they are opinion or fact. Lefties may agree with them, but that does not make them theirs.

There are degrees but if a self described conservative aligns with the left often against those that are actually accomplishing conservative goals they are not conservative…

 

[oze]

How are we defining conservative today? INGO can't agree on what one is, let alone the greater population. Trump is certainly not what most people would have considered an actual conservative.

Nobody here is helping any lefties. You think lefties are watching INGO looking for stuff to use to attack Trump?

Or maybe that someone here will read some of the negative stuff about Trump and decide "darn it, they are going to vote for Biden now!"

This is silly. Saying something negative about Trump does not mean someone cannot be conservative. Saying negative things about Trump are not leftist talking points, they are opinion or fact. Lefties may agree with them, but that does not make them theirs.

Hell, that statement wasn't even really negative about Trump, other than it contradicting the whole idea that Trump isn't a politician. He lies on the campaign trail just like the rest. So what?

Based on what I've seen here on INGO, saying something negative about Trump (or any politician, for that matter) doesn't even preclude that person from voting for him or her.

 

[Leadeye]

Regardless of how you feel about Trump, he is a meter of public satisfaction with leadership. Too many people are unhappy with leadership, and leadership, regardless of what type, is ignoring this. It's a dangerous and costly course.

 

[Ingomike]

How are we defining conservative today?

I define it the same way everyday.

Secure the border.

Energy independence.

Get back to manufacturing.

To name a few…

 

[HKFaninCarmel]

This is true, but if the majority of one’s posts are negative toward Trump, especially when he was President it leads others to question one’s conservatism.


There are degrees but if a self described conservative aligns with the left often against those that are actually accomplishing conservative goals they are not conservative…

So Gaetz and Mace are out.

There’s plenty to dislike about Trump. It’s not unreasonable to want someone who can actually advance the message and not make everything about himself. Reminder that Trump would rather praise Newsom than DeSantis. You are worthless to conservatives if you are incapable of delivering too.

 

[jamil]

What a crock of **** post. TRUMP DID DELIVER. No one else in the race has delivered like Trump, not even close.

Yeah. You can see the wall from space. The swamp got drained. On and on. We’ve been through it before. He did some good stuff. He did some bad stuff. On balance more good than bad. That’s about the most an honest person can say about it.