Train derailment in Ohio and chemical release

[jamil]

I think the copy link vs copy solves the mystery.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

I think the copy link vs copy solves the mystery.

Not sure, both links look identical. I just copied the URL from the NS site and pasted it here. I tried to just open his link, and plain copy and paste it and came up with the same 404 result on both. But the one I posted seems to work. So I have no idea.

 

[Ingomike]

We’ve elevated roads for decades. This nation is famous for wasted investment. No reason to not spend billions on restructuring the crossings. Practicality has very little to do with infrastructure spending.

YES, And we can roll in funding for bike paths right next to them…

For: @jamil

 

[jamil]

Not sure, both links look identical. I just copied the URL from the NS site and pasted it here. I tried to just open his link, and plain copy and paste it and came up with the same 404 result on both. But the one I posted seems to work. So I have no idea.

An html link tag has a href property which is the url, and the tag can surround text. The text is what shows on the page. So if the text shows it in url form, but the underlying href property is different, then when you copy it, you're copying the text. When you copy link, you're copying the href property value.

If the two are different, and copying link works and copying the text doesn't, that explains it.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

An html link tag has a href property which is the url, and the tag can surround text. The text is what shows on the page. So if the text shows it in url form, but the underlying href property is different, then when you copy it, you're copying the text. When you copy link, you're copying the href property value.

If the two are different, and copying link works and copying the text doesn't, that explains it.

This is a bit above my head, but... I tried just clicking on his link, right click then open link in a new tab, copy link and then pasting in a tab, highlight the text then copy/paste, and just highlight the text without the url tag in "reply" window. I got 404 for all of them. His link appears to be identical to mine, but mine works.
Here is his.

https://www.nscorp.com/content/nscorp/en/investor-relations/stock-information/ownership-top-holders.html

Here is mine.

Key Investor Information | Norfolk Southern

www.nscorp.com

In this reply when I turned off BB code, they look identical. But with preview and when posting they show up differently.

 

[KLB]

This is a bit above my head, but... I tried just clicking on his link, right click then open link in a new tab, copy link and then pasting in a tab, highlight the text then copy/paste, and just highlight the text without the url tag in "reply" window. I got 404 for all of them. His link appears to be identical to mine, but mine works.
Here is his.

https://www.nscorp.com/content/nscorp/en/investor-relations/stock-information/ownership-top-holders.html

Here is mine.

Key Investor Information | Norfolk Southern

www.nscorp.com

In this reply when I turned off BB code, they look identical. But with preview and when posting they show up differently.

His is "https" yours is "http"

 

[actaeon277]

Your not talking about just crossings, huge sections of track would need to be elevated.

Elevate the road. The cars aren't pulling the tonnage.
Start with the busiest of roads, start working your way down.
Many already are done like this, especially newer roads.
Doesn't have to be done all at once.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

His is "https" yours is "http"

That did it, when I copied and pasted his link and removed the "s" it worked.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Elevate the road. The cars aren't pulling the tonnage.
Start with the busiest of roads, start working your way down.
Many already are done like this, especially newer roads.
Doesn't have to be done all at once.

That might work for some roads, but would require a crap ton of taking land for it for others. Raising the roads would restrict access to property on those roads. They would have to put in service roads for the properties along side the road like they do for highways. Along with some rural areas where the tracks parallel the roads, for the cross roads they would have to install cloverleafs or similar which again would take a lot of property. Heck in your neck of the woods look at the tracks by 169th and Kennedy in Hessvile, that would be one heck of a cluster **** to change.

 

[actaeon277]

That might work for some roads, but would require a crap ton of taking land for it for others. Raising the roads would restrict access to property on those roads. They would have to put in service roads for the properties along side the road like they do for highways. Along with some rural areas where the tracks parallel the roads, for the cross roads they would have to install cloverleafs or similar which again would take a lot of property. Heck in your neck of the woods look at the tracks by 169th and Kennedy in Hessvile, that would be one heck of a cluster **** to change.

How much of a cluster **** is it when the car full of poisonous venom crash and poison the area?

 

[Timjoebillybob]

How much of a cluster **** is it when the car full of poisonous venom crash and poison the area?

Which happens just how often? I could make the same argument about coal fired generating stations.

Kingston Fossil Plant coal fly ash slurry spill - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[actaeon277]

Which happens just how often? I could make the same argument about coal fired generating stations.

Kingston Fossil Plant coal fly ash slurry spill - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

coal fired?
Not even on the same level

 

[Timjoebillybob]

coal fired?
Not even on the same level

You don't think that spill I linked to was at least somewhat close to the Ohio derailment? Not to mention that the Ohio derailment wasn't caused by a vehicle on the tracks.

 

[KLB]

Elevate the road. The cars aren't pulling the tonnage.
Start with the busiest of roads, start working your way down.
Many already are done like this, especially newer roads.
Doesn't have to be done all at once.

That isn't going to work in a lot of places. It takes room to make an overpass. Now you are taking some people's homes, or others lose access to the road. It might work for some rural areas, but even a lot of those would not be possible.

 

[SEIndSAM]

 

[Cameramonkey]

elevating either is a challenge. It takes less height to elevate a track than it does a road. You are looking at only going up 20' or so for going over a road. But if you want to elevate a road over the tracks, You are looking at at least double that, sometimes quadruple or more. So that means your approaches are going to need to start much farther back.

For no more accidents than we have, this juice aint worth the squeeze.

 

[ditcherman]

Elevate?!?
How ‘bout we just pay the people who are supposed to care enough, to care enough?!?
It’s not hard. Cronyism, greed, pride, are the problems, not elevated roads.

 

[SEIndSAM]

 

[SEIndSAM]

 

[thompal]

How much of a cluster **** is it when the car full of poisonous venom crash and poison the area?

Of course, when everything goes right, you only have to sit and wait for a 3 mile long train to pass.