Should the time ever come in Indiana, I may not be able to bake your cake, but I would be honored to make the topper for you.I'm not sure that the population of gays folks is only 3.5%. Ive heard for years that it was around 10%. I found a recent article that IMO seems to be from a fairly legit source suggesting up to 20%.
What Percent of the Population is Gay? More Than You Think | Smart News | Smithsonian
In any event, I've read some fantastic posts in this thread that don't necessarily support gay marriage, but certainly rebuke why it shouldn't be allowed, and I won't regurgitate them here. I will say that I've been with my partner for almost 24 years. We would love to be able to get married in our home state and not have to travel cross country to do so. We have no desire to force a church to perform our wedding, or have a baker get their panties in a bunch by making us a cake. We would simply prefer gay friendly people for those things. And, just to be clear, we have no desire to marry a relative, our dog, or a fence post. Just each other. And when that day comes (hopefully in Indiana before we croak), I'm sure the world won't come crashing down on our straight married friends, who collectively, have had numerous divorces. Just my .
That piece of paper you get from the state does not make you married, it is just a piece of paper from the state giving each of you certain rights pertaining to the other. I can go to the Church down the road and get married in front of God and family if I wish without the piece of paper, the state is just willing to sell me this legal contract at a very fair price.
Anyone should be able to get this same piece of paper(contract) from the state if they so choose. Me and my brother, me and my sister, me and my mom, anyone.
What was the OP about
So why not quit *****ing about such a minute percentage of people and just let them have their rights/liberties/freedoms? You wouldn't have nearly as many gays/lesbians out there making a scene if so many people weren't trying to deny them these things just because they aren't the "norm". It's 3.5% of the population, how on earth can 3.5% of the population being allowed to have a marriage license going to affect your life in any way? And who's morals are we going against here when we allow gay marriage? Sure the hell not mine. Actually I'd say denying somebody a right to get married is immoral, but what do I know? I don't have a book to tell me what wrong and right is.
You are one sick puppy.I am disappointed that hairy breasts didn't hijack this thread. Their'y're smokin'.
If the state (presumably the "people") get to issue it. Then they get to define the parameters.If they get to have this cheap contract then me and my cousin should be able to do the same thing just as cheap if we were so inclined.
We conservatives complain about "social engineering" when it involves letting gays openly serve in the military. Yet we'll defend "social engineering" when it comes to the tax code and what are considered moral families. Do away with the tax incentives.
Marriage is a word.... nothing more... nothing less. From now on I call myself King Lucky... please show me where you must now recognize my title? If two men CALL THEMSELVES married... why do YOU have to recognize it?
If a man and a woman call themselves MARRIED... please tell me why I or anyone else needs to recognize that self appointed title? Tell me why our government should recognize ANY self appointed titles?
I don't give a **** what people historically have done.... Your bibles rules shouldn't govern me. Nor should its definitions of titles. You can't give me ONE REASON why .gov should recognize the term marriage. If you could...you would shut me up and give me a SINGLE REASON why it is necessary. Don't give me your bibles reasons... don't give me historical reasons. GIVE ME ONE REASON .gov has for entertaining the notion of marriage? One....
Individuals and groups of people like to think they are more than they are. The anti-gun lobby wanted to think it had enough popular opinion to force silly gun laws on the nation after Sandy Hook.I'm not sure that the population of gays folks is only 3.5%. Ive heard for years that it was around 10%. I found a recent article that IMO seems to be from a fairly legit source suggesting up to 20%.
What Percent of the Population is Gay? More Than You Think | Smart News | Smithsonian
But why stop at two? If Gay marriage is acceptable what about a man loving two women or a woman loving two men? THat is the problem that happens when you mess with age old definitions. WHo is anyone to say it should just be between two people if its ok to change the typical definition ( and the one myself and many will always keep) that a marriage is aunion of one man and one woman.?
I'm not sure that the population of gays folks is only 3.5%. Ive heard for years that it was around 10%. I found a recent article that IMO seems to be from a fairly legit source suggesting up to 20%.
What Percent of the Population is Gay? More Than You Think | Smart News | Smithsonian
In any event, I've read some fantastic posts in this thread that don't necessarily support gay marriage, but certainly rebuke why it shouldn't be allowed, and I won't regurgitate them here. I will say that I've been with my partner for almost 24 years. We would love to be able to get married in our home state and not have to travel cross country to do so. We have no desire to force a church to perform our wedding, or have a baker get their panties in a bunch by making us a cake. We would simply prefer gay friendly people for those things. And, just to be clear, we have no desire to marry a relative, our dog, or a fence post. Just each other. And when that day comes (hopefully in Indiana before we croak), I'm sure the world won't come crashing down on our straight married friends, who collectively, have had numerous divorces. Just my .
Government issues the license. It gets to define what that license does. People vote for the government that defines things the way they like. I think the people's government has no business in people's personal lives.
Ask youself the same question. If you where refused employment based of your lifestyle would you sew ?No race involved. I agree most wholeheartedly, that Government should not be involved in marriage at all. I certainly believe that we need some type of drastic change in our system of taxation. Being pro-freedom, would you believe that my church should be liable to prosecution for discrimination, if we refused to hire an individual because of their choice of lifestyle?
Ask youself the same question. If you where refused employment based of your lifestyle would you sew ?
Answered your question for me. Thanks !
I do not think anyone has a problem with two men calling themselves married. I have a problem with someone telling me that I have to call them married.
Where in the world does it say that Christianity owns a monopoly on the term Marriage?
The word marriage wasn't even invented until the 1200's... Stop making the ridiculous argument that religion somehow gets sole ownership of the title "married". Besides... what is this ridiculous obsession with the word anyway?
"You can't use the word married... you have to call it civil union".... GTFO... who cares what you call it?
Its not so much the word but what it means to others is obviously not what it means to you. Its the same argument, my meaning is not hindering you why do you care?