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    JTScribe

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    One of the folks in our watch party was kind of fuzzy on who Morgan is so we pulled up part of the first episode to show the scene where he's unable to shoot his wife and it made me realize that the show is doing something very, very subtle with the zombies that is really quite brilliant.

    In the first season the zombies were quite spry, able to pick up objects (little girl with her bunny, zombie with the rock on the window) and manipulate them (Morgan's wife with the doorknob). They moved relatively quickly and for the most part still seemed semi-human. The ongoing changes are really quite clever, and a good way to show the passage of time and decay.
     

    dusty88

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    One of the folks in our watch party was kind of fuzzy on who Morgan is so we pulled up part of the first episode to show the scene where he's unable to shoot his wife and it made me realize that the show is doing something very, very subtle with the zombies that is really quite brilliant.

    In the first season the zombies were quite spry, able to pick up objects (little girl with her bunny, zombie with the rock on the window) and manipulate them (Morgan's wife with the doorknob). They moved relatively quickly and for the most part still seemed semi-human. The ongoing changes are really quite clever, and a good way to show the passage of time and decay.

    They had different writers the first season. They actually have said those zombie manipulations were poor writing.
     

    EvilElmo

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    Really glad Morgan and Rick are back together. I thought it was really interesting how Morgan use to look crazy and that when he finally got back up with Rick is when he's covered with zombie matter and is shooting a guy in the head.

    I want to see how Morgan handles the Wolves next season. So far we've only seen two of them (attacking Morgan and then killing red-poncho-guy), and when they finally hurt/kill people in Alexandria it'll be interesting to see how Morgan deals with knowing he could have stopped it (again - parallels with his son) if it'd just killed them when he had the chance.

    Also, didn't Aaron (? - Daryl's recruiting partner) mention while they were tracking red-poncho-guy that Alexandria's only kicked out 3 people - two men and a woman. That can't be a coincidence.
     

    JTScribe

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    I want to see how Morgan handles the Wolves next season. So far we've only seen two of them (attacking Morgan and then killing red-poncho-guy), and when they finally hurt/kill people in Alexandria it'll be interesting to see how Morgan deals with knowing he could have stopped it (again - parallels with his son) if it'd just killed them when he had the chance.

    Also, didn't Aaron (? - Daryl's recruiting partner) mention while they were tracking red-poncho-guy that Alexandria's only kicked out 3 people - two men and a woman. That can't be a coincidence.

    I wonder how many wolves there are. I assume the two that attacked Morgan are dead now and the two at the warehouse were two different ones, but they can't be the same can they?
     

    EvilElmo

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    I wonder how many wolves there are. I assume the two that attacked Morgan are dead now and the two at the warehouse were two different ones, but they can't be the same can they?

    I don't see why they couldn't be the same ones. If they were dead when Morgan left them he wouldn't have bothered shoving them into the car. And it's not like the writers are above leaving people in dangerous situations and then miraculously escaping. Glenn was underneath 3 walkers with a bullet in his shoulder and somehow he survived (off camera).
     

    dusty88

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    I want to see how Morgan handles the Wolves next season. So far we've only seen two of them (attacking Morgan and then killing red-poncho-guy), and when they finally hurt/kill people in Alexandria it'll be interesting to see how Morgan deals with knowing he could have stopped it (again - parallels with his son) if it'd just killed them when he had the chance.

    Also, didn't Aaron (? - Daryl's recruiting partner) mention while they were tracking red-poncho-guy that Alexandria's only kicked out 3 people - two men and a woman. That can't be a coincidence.

    I also thought it was not a coincidence that Rick had mentioned the danger of letting people go, and that Aaron mentioned the 3 they let go included a "strong, smart leader".

    However, the writers of this show are pretty good at getting me to predict something that turns out not to be true.

    They also showed the Wolves looking at the dropped photographs from Alexandria. Maybe that wasn't the "wolves" first time knowing about Alexandria, but they've found evidence of "Wolf" activities in large numbers. It seems to me there would be no reason the wolves wouldn't have already moved on Alexandria if they knew about it. They could have sent a couple of guys over the fence and taken that unarmed community in an hour.
     

    dusty88

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    I wonder how many wolves there are. I assume the two that attacked Morgan are dead now and the two at the warehouse were two different ones, but they can't be the same can they?

    The "hold still" voice sounded like the same guy as the one at the fire. Creepy.

    Next time someone tells me to "just hold still" I'm definitely looking over my shoulder.
     

    Libertarian01

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    To All,

    When I look back on the episode there was one scene that really stood out. When Daryl and Aaron were in the car and Daryl was smoking and getting ready to get out and distract the zombies, Aaron stepped WAY up, far different from Nicholas, and said, "No. We both go. No one stays behind. We're in this together!" It really made me think think that by being out on longer runs he and Eric GET IT! They understand the only way you survive in the long run is by standing together.

    It really showed his character. He isn't as violent prone or competent as Daryl but you can count on him to be there, and that's a lot.

    Doug
     

    actaeon277

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    To All,

    When I look back on the episode there was one scene that really stood out. When Daryl and Aaron were in the car and Daryl was smoking and getting ready to get out and distract the zombies, Aaron stepped WAY up, far different from Nicholas, and said, "No. We both go. No one stays behind. We're in this together!" It really made me think think that by being out on longer runs he and Eric GET IT! They understand the only way you survive in the long run is by standing together.

    It really showed his character. He isn't as violent prone or competent as Daryl but you can count on him to be there, and that's a lot.

    Doug

    It's either strength of character, or from being beyond the wire.
     

    rhino

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    I don't believe that. I believe you would present one of your "tools". I've seen some of those things you keep on your belt.

    The primary use of said tools is to drop them as I beat a hasty retreat, slowing the pursuers either by tripping them or causing them to stop to examine or retrieve shiny objects.

    It's a plan.
     
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