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    HoughMade

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    No illegal, but business dealings with persons that might raise eyebrows concerning national security. Ya know, like say owing money to particular persons who support certain foreign interests.
    You disagree?

    I wouldn't dare to speculate as to why he won't release his tax returns....but I will anyway. I suspect he is not as flush as he wants people to think.
     

    T.Lex

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    Yeah, I think the no-taxes Trump situation is more about his simple need to not do stuff he doesn't want to do and that it'll show less income than he wants to project.

    He's had to do some filings for the casino projects, and they show he paid VERY little in taxes. Perfectly legal, so more power to him. Fun with capital losses. He might be self conscious about that, even though I wouldn't personally hold it against him.

    It would give HRC a wedge issue.
     

    BugI02

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    The vitriol about past Republican loser-nominees - going back 20 years apparently - is baffling to me. For one thing, it skips a significant 2-term winner. For another thing, those losers probably lost because a big enough group of Republicans stayed home or voted for the other guy. (2008 was an unusual year.)

    No one ever said "you" had to vote for the losers. "You" chose to, if that's what you did. I did, too. I could tolerate them, if not completely support them.

    This year, I'll probably join the throngs of people who DIDN'T vote for those nominees and not vote for this one. For the first time.

    Gimme a break.

    Let's talk about THIS loser, not the past losers.



    I'm not really worried about a real conspiracy. I'm more worried that the Republican candidate sounds like he's completely oblivious to the risk, and even the recent history, of Putin and Russia.

    Heck, it makes HRC seem positively Romney-esque.


    I respect where you're coming from, T.Lex

    But to me I get a whiff of hypocrisy when people reference 'taking one for the team' when voting for McPain and Rahmney but being unable to do so in Trump's case because; principles
     

    BugI02

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    You're probably right...You shouldn't think that way...

    There are a lot of attacks here on Trump Supporters....If I understand the gist of this thread the candidate(s) the never Trumpers wanted did not get nominated and never Trumpers are blaming everyone but themselves for this...And if Trump loses to Hillary the never trumpers are accusing the Trump supporters of blaming everyone but themselves???

    That's some interesting irony right there...

    All rounds in the ten ring

    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to indiucky again. Dammit!
     

    nate77

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    That's and interesting way to interpret a 66% lead.
    I did address that up thread.

    If if a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound? Pretty much sums up Nehlen's campaign.

    I did love how Nehlen went to Ryan's house, and pointed out the huge walls surrounding it.
     

    BugI02

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    Does not compute.

    They picked the loser. We'll never know what would have happened with my choice (who was polling higher, against what should have been an easy win against Clinton).

    Trump polling was consistently low (don't care if you think polls don't matter)... and he's flipping red states blue. There's no "winning" going on.


    Dude, only the 'Superbowl' matters. Arguing who 'should' have won in preliminary rounds is revisionist claptrap. Not enough people supported your preferred candidate. Maybe you should drill down into the reasons for that
     

    BugI02

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    No crying here. I'm content, I've got my guns and ammo.

    But I'm not going to stop[STRIKE] posting election news[/STRIKE] trolling Trump. Sorry not sorry.


    The above edit represents only the opinion of the poster and should not be taken as gospel
     

    BugI02

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    Let me take a page out of the Trump-excuse book to field this one, and let me know how it fits.

    Our non-Trump candidates couldn't get chosen because the media was working against them... they gave Trump all the coverage... ensuring he was selected!

    Feasible, yeah? Media chose Trump because they knew he would lose to Clinton.


    Better check the cover of that book! I think you inadvertantly picked up the #NeverRelevant 'excuse book'
     

    BugI02

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    Paul Ryan is fighting for his political life. Today's poll might show him up 66, but just wait until you see a poll from Drudge/Breitbart.


    More truth here than you probably care to admit. Too bad his 'political life' is his prime concern
     

    Kutnupe14

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    One more step toward the day when everyone who isn't in lockstep is on your ignore list. Everybody should have a goal I guess

    Better watch it Bug, next you'll be defriended on Facebook....the ultimate insult
     

    T.Lex

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    I respect where you're coming from, T.Lex

    But to me I get a whiff of hypocrisy when people reference 'taking one for the team' when voting for McPain and Rahmney but being unable to do so in Trump's case because; principles

    What's so bad about having principles? :D

    If you didn't vote for Romney because you didn't think he was conservative, that's fine. Plenty of people didn't.

    But saying I should vote for Trump because you voted for Romney makes as much sense as telling me to pay $3.50 for gas now because you did 4 years ago.

    They're not. But their wet dream is to be responsible for his defeat - which gives us who for POTUS (if you say Johnson you prevaricate)
    This is what INGO's more provocative Trump supporters can't figure out: we don't want HRC to win. Your "wet dream" projection is just bizarre.

    We may expect her to win because Trump seems willing to completely screw this up. But that doesn't mean we get any excitement from his campaign's death spin.

    This will sound strange, but we don't want Trump to lose to her. Speaking for myself, I don't really want him to win, either. Other than the attention whores that've made the news, I don't know any conservative non-trumper who wants HRC to win. We're just disappointed that he's the nominee and doesn't appear to respect it.

    I don't want either one of them to win.

    Our country will be worse of regardless which one wins.
     

    BugI02

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    What's so bad about having principles? :D

    If you didn't vote for Romney because you didn't think he was conservative, that's fine. Plenty of people didn't.

    But saying I should vote for Trump because you voted for Romney makes as much sense as telling me to pay $3.50 for gas now because you did 4 years ago.

    Accepted. I concede the point


    This is what INGO's more provocative Trump supporters can't figure out: we don't want HRC to win. Your "wet dream" projection is just bizarre.

    We may expect her to win because Trump seems willing to completely screw this up. But that doesn't mean we get any excitement from his campaign's death spin.

    This will sound strange, but we don't want Trump to lose to her. Speaking for myself, I don't really want him to win, either. Other than the attention whores that've made the news, I don't know any conservative non-trumper who wants HRC to win. We're just disappointed that he's the nominee and doesn't appear to respect it.

    I don't want either one of them to win.

    Our country will be worse of regardless which one wins.


    I can accept that you are a principled nonTrumper. I do, however see some of the neverTrump persuasion (mostly pundits) providing ammunition for the DNC/HiLIARy and loading mags for them. After Trump became the nominee I can only see this as petulance and not principle. If they do not want HiLIARy to win, what do they think bitter end neverTrumpism will lead to? I'm sure Chamberlain was convinced of the primacy of his principles, too
     
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