Let it go, bug.
There are bigger fish to fry, especially now.
Constant bickering between INGOers becomes personal. When that happens good INGOers become former INGOers.
This road has only one destination...please stop before someone reaches the point of no return.
Can't we come together here and realize the ultimate goal is to keep hillary out of office come november instead of constant infighting? Hate Trump all you like, but don't be so down on people who are doing the best they can to keep hillary out of office.
The party and the people have nominated a candidate to get behind. I don't want the supreme court stacked with radical progressive judges who see my rights as nothing more than privileges, and that is ultimately the most important aspect of this election to me.
Can't we come together here and realize the ultimate goal is to keep hillary out of office come november instead of constant infighting? Hate Trump all you like, but don't be so down on people who are doing the best they can to keep hillary out of office.
The party and the people have nominated a candidate to get behind. I don't want the supreme court stacked with radical progressive judges who see my rights as nothing more than privileges, and that is ultimately the most important aspect of this election to me.
For a generation since Ronald Reagan left Washington — that would be the Ronald Reagan who knew that “I’m from the government and I’m here to help” was a punch line — the “conservative” Republican party has sown an incoherent statism that has trouble telling the good guys from the bad guys. On Thursday night came the harvest: The party was formally taken over by an incoherent statist whose “conservatism” is not done justice by scare quotes.
I know you weren't talking to me, Paul, but I would like to add one idea
You are correct that these are perilous times. Some of us believe that in such a case the times can pick the man rather than the other way around
As far as 'electability', do you think Churchill could have been elected prime minister under any other circumstances than WWII? Do you think U.S.Grant could have been elected commanding general and then president under any other circumstances than the aftermath of the Civil War? Imperfect men who were never the less the right men for the that job at that time
I expect you might find a Grant comparison with Trump more palatable than the Churchill one, but the point is both men rose to the occasion although they would not have been expected to viewed through cold rationality. I can only speak for myself, but I believe Trump has not been tested yet and holds at least some possibility of rising to the occasion. I believe Hillary has been tested many times and been found wanting every time. I have always been looking for a Republican who can win; not will win but can, against Hilary. That that proved to be Trump I think was not anybody's first choice, but it is what it is.
I agree with BugI02 and churchmouse. Trump is a businessman and it turns out that many of the best presidents were not necessarily politicians first. I am not saying that Trump will make a great president or anything of the like, He might be lousy for all I know, but we do know what Hillary wants and the fact that she just chose a VP that is a Bloomberg chump and a strong anti-gun candidate tells us what were in for if she is elected. Besides, we really could use a businessman that will make deals that are in his/our best interest right now. I say lets give him a chance. He certainly is a 2A supporter at the very least. And after what this country has been through and where its at right now, maybe it's time to let someone who is not a Washington insider and is a little rough around the edges have a try at it. He might surprise you.
, Trump conned Welch into the deal, promising things he didn't know if he could deliver, but somehow pulled it off in the end, by hook or by crook. That's not how I prefer my presidents to behave.
Well this sounds like INGO 4 years ago. No one got behind BHO's opponent but feel it's okay to complain about him for four years.
Question.......who on the right could have been put inn the position to run that would have a chance at beating the Clinton war machine. Who.
According to the same people that assured us we had to support Romney, McCain and Dole in order to beat the Dems, Jeb Bush was the guy that could win, win, win.Question.......who on the right could have been put inn the position to run that would have a chance at beating the Clinton war machine. Who.
Most anything in media politics has become a circus.....with the conventions being the main pep ralliesNow, this is douchebaggery. And a firm example of corruption.
Exactly.......I just cringe when I hear the "I am not voting in protest" position.
A non-vote is in fact a protest but who in the hell actually is effected/cares.
We have had horrible choices for so many election cycles it has a numbing effect.
Sit it out, vote 3rd party if you wish. Your right to do so.
Just please keep your pie hole shut if and when the Hildabeast comes to power.
Question.......who on the right could have been put inn the position to run that would have a chance at beating the Clinton war machine. Who.