The Republican Primary Race Is Filling Up

[ArcadiaGP]

Show me in Trump's official policy papers where he plans an AWB? If you can't, then you should apologize for lying.

Clinton's official policy papers include lots of gun control.

Not doing this back-and-forth BS with you anymore, already said I wouldn't before. I can show you Trump showing AWB support. You can show me Trump's website where Trump claims he likes guns.

Mine is more likely to be true, as it represents the man when he was most honest - Before running for President. Yours is more likely to be false, as it is the word of a salesman-now-politician that has been flipping nearly every belief he's ever held.

So, yeah, neither of us will know until that day comes... but I'd rather not risk it. You simply have way too much trust in a salesman with no consistency.

We've had enough of this "listen and believe" bull**** for the past 8 years. Get over it.

 

[Tombs]

Not doing this back-and-forth BS with you anymore, already said I wouldn't before. I can show you Trump showing AWB support. You can show me Trump's website where Trump claims he likes guns.

Mine is more likely to be true, as it represents the man when he was most honest - Before running for President. Yours is more likely to be false, as it is the word of a salesman-now-politician that has been flipping nearly every belief he's ever held.

So, yeah, neither of us will know until that day comes... but I'd rather not risk it. You simply have way too much trust in a salesman with no consistency.

We've had enough of this "listen and believe" bull**** for the past 8 years. Get over it.

In other words, you want Trump supporters to buy into your tin foil conspiracy that Trump threw away all his business partnerships to run as a republican to help hillary get elected, but now he's running as a republican so he can implement democrat agendas?

Jet fuel can't melt steel beams! Hahahahaha

 

[Kutnupe14]

In other words, you want Trump supporters to buy into your tin foil conspiracy that Trump threw away all his business partnerships to run as a republican to help hillary get elected, but now he's running as a republican so he can implement democrat agendas?

Jet fuel can't melt steel beams! Hahahahaha

Ok, I might have chuckled a bit

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Republican who works for Cruz: "I don't think Cruz can win nomination at this point. I think his campaign is done."

Ted Cruz under fire - CNNPolitics.com

 

[jamil]

It's time for the minor candidates to get out. We'll be into the winner-takes-all primaries soon and if Trump is going against a three man fieild for very long he will be the nominee.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Republican who works for Cruz: "I don't think Cruz can win nomination at this point. I think his campaign is done."

Ted Cruz under fire - CNNPolitics.com

Cruz is done. He's been accused twice of misleading the public concerning other candidates. People paying attention will have a hard time overlooking that.

 

[jamil]

Cruz is done. He's been accused twice of misleading the public concerning other candidates. People paying attention will have a hard time overlooking that.

After Paul dropped out Cruz temporarily took the top spot on my list. He's proven himself thus far to be a douchebag. I think I said this before. **** it. It'll be over by May anyway. So I'll just wait until the rest of the few states that actually has any say pick the nominee and I'll just blindly pull the 'R' lever in November.

 

[bwframe]

Indiana's Senator Coats endorses Rubio

I think that's like 10 endorsements he's gotten just today

Wonder if these endorsements are good or bad for Rubio?
Seems as if the same folks whose actions have given us Trump's popularity are now publically endorsing Rubio?

 

[MisterChester]

After Paul dropped out Cruz temporarily took the top spot on my list. He's proven himself thus far to be a douchebag. I think I said this before. **** it. It'll be over by May anyway. So I'll just wait until the rest of the few states that actually has any say pick the nominee and I'll just blindly pull the 'R' lever in November.

Write in a candidate. I think I'm writing in Yosemite Sam.

 

[MisterChester]

Wonder if these endorsements are good or bad for Rubio?
Seems as if the same folks whose actions have given us Trump's popularity are now publically endorsing Rubio?

Says a lot that they'd rather get behind a weakling like Rubio instead of Trump.

 

[Tombs]

Says a lot that they'd rather get behind a weakling like Rubio instead of Trump.

I think it primarily says that they're TERRIFIED of supporting someone who takes the conservative message seriously and pushes it unabashed. They consider such a thing to make a candidate "Unelectable" while the dems push an honest to god socialist who's gaining popularity like wildfire.

 

[BogWalker]

Truth be told, Trump winning the presidency might be the "reset" catalyst our nation needs to re-evaluate who we are. Which IMO is preferable to the other "reset" which deals with the subject we aren't allowed to talk about. Sometimes you have to take someone to the brink of death before you can save them.

It could very well be. I think it's safe to assume it would be a death blow to the Republican establishment and would send a big message to the Democrats about rethinking their strategy, but if he acts in office like he acts now the implications would be far more broad. It may even be nice if foreign nations stopped working with us for a while out of dislike for the man. So long as it doesn't turn into trade sanctions. (Or maybe that would be the fix to our trade deficit?) America's chance to "work on ourselves" for a bit. That is unless he's goaded into declaring another war in the Middle East or something.

I don't know. It's unprecedented in my lifetime so the possibilities abound in my mind.

Or it could end up an entirely unremarkable presidency marked by Congressional gridlock.

 

[Tombs]

It could very well be. I think it's safe to assume it would be a death blow to the Republican establishment and would send a big message to the Democrats about rethinking their strategy, but if he acts in office like he acts now the implications would be far more broad. It may even be nice if foreign nations stopped working with us for a while out of dislike for the man. So long as it doesn't turn into trade sanctions. (Or maybe that would be the fix to our trade deficit?) America's chance to "work on ourselves" for a bit. That is unless he's goaded into declaring another war in the Middle East or something.

I don't know. It's unprecedented in my lifetime so the possibilities abound in my mind.

Or it could end up an entirely unremarkable presidency marked by Congressional gridlock.

Eesh, it's like the majority of the people on this forum have absolutely not the faintest idea of what the constitution says about the power of the executive branch. The president can be shut down in a hurry, we just have spineless worthless people filling congress who won't dare touch a hair on a democrat's head, because "elections."

The world won't end. If Trump screws up royally, he'll be impeached in short order and we'll move on with our lives. For obvious reasons, no one wants to be the man who impeached the first black president.

 

[T.Lex]

This...

Eesh, it's like the majority of the people on this forum have absolutely not the faintest idea of what the constitution says about the power of the executive branch.

And then this....

The president can be shut down in a hurry, we just have spineless worthless people filling congress who won't dare touch a hair on a democrat's head, because "elections."

The world won't end. If Trump screws up royally, he'll be impeached in short order and we'll move on with our lives. For obvious reasons, no one wants to be the man who impeached the first black president.

Seem just completely at odds in the same post.

Congress can do very little to influence foreign policy. The executive cannot be "shut down in a hurry" by Congress, or the Supreme Court. Over time, sure, but not in a hurry. Especially not against a populist president, which is what Trump would be.

And, as we learned with trying to impeach Clinton, that process cannot - in any reality - be considered "short order."

 

[BogWalker]

Eesh, it's like the majority of the people on this forum have absolutely not the faintest idea of what the constitution says about the power of the executive branch. The president can be shut down in a hurry, we just have spineless worthless people filling congress who won't dare touch a hair on a democrat's head, because "elections."

The world won't end. If Trump screws up royally, he'll be impeached in short order and we'll move on with our lives. For obvious reasons, no one wants to be the man who impeached the first black president.

It's all about perception. Foreign heads of state have already voiced their dislike of Trump. If they refuse to work with him they're refusing to work with our government. I don't think he'll screw up royally. At least not any worse than some of the screw ups that have been elected. He'll just make people mad. Which could be a good thing, like I said.

Oh, and my last line. Congressional gridlock. That's part of that congress shutting down the president you speak of.

 

[BugI02]

Says a lot that they'd rather get behind a [STRIKE]weakling[/STRIKE] manageable apparatchik like Rubio instead of Trump.

FTFY

 

[BugI02]

Does anyone have anything on which of the top three is likely to have any coattails? Been looking w/o much success. That could affect my choice

 

[jamil]

I think it primarily says that they're TERRIFIED of supporting someone who takes the conservative message seriously and pushes it unabashed. They consider such a thing to make a candidate "Unelectable" while the dems push an honest to god socialist who's gaining popularity like wildfire.

WHAT?

Just....WHAT?

You think they secretly think that Trump is the real conservative, and THAT's what scares them? Look, I've defended Trump on INGO when I thought people were attacking him with things that aren't true. And I'll damn sure go the opposite way when people defend him with things that aren't true. So, let me explain a couple of things to you. First, Trump is not conservative. He is not liberal. He is not ideological. He is astonishingly, emotionally pragmatic. He has given so many clues that point to that conclusion. He's all over the place ideologically. Single payer healthcare? Listen to what the man says. Not just the parts that make you smile. Listen to the other stuff too. Listen to everything.

Second, the establishment candidates aren't afraid to support Trump because they believe he is a "real conservative". They are called "establishment" because they support teh status quo ruling sect, regardless of their personal ideology. Said a different way, Trump could have as easily declared himself a Democrat and said the things Democrats want to hear. Problem is, the top Democrats are already saying those things to great applause. It's a crowded space to occupy. So, look at the Republican side. What do they want to hear? They want to hear "send 'em back to Mexico!" They want to hear "I'll build a big ****ing wall!" They want to hear "I'll make America great again". They want to see him say "**** you" to the media. They want a middle finger. No one else was saying those things. So he said them. And now his manipulated fans lay prostrate at his feet.

You want to believe in a Messiah? I'm sorry, Trump is simply not that. He's not Superman. He's not a hero. He's just charismatic, emotionally pragmatic, exceptionally talented, deal closer. He talks people into siding with him for a living.

 

[jamil]

Does anyone have anything on which of the top three is likely to have any coattails? Been looking w/o much success. That could affect my choice

This time around, none of the republicans will have coattails.

Certainly not Trump. Republicans are really afraid that Trump would lose so bad that Republican congress critters would be ousted from their seats. (unlike INGO's competing theory that the Republican establishment is secretly afraid that Trump would out-conserve them.)

Same with Cruz. People hate him. He's kind of an *******. If he wins the nomination a lot of more moderate Republicans will stay home. And people who hate the Republican nominee might also take out that hatred on Republican congressmen and senators.

Rubio is Fat-ass Pussbag lite. He might as well grow a toothbrush mustache. But people like him. If he won the nomination, as long as he doesn't act like too much of an ******* to Hillary, if he probably won't bring too many with him on his coattails, but he probably won't cost them their jobs like the other two would.

It's too bad those are the three we're left with as the only candidates with any chance to win the nomination. And given the fact that we're getting into the part of Primary season where it's winner-takes-all, I'd give Trump the advantage at this point, especially the longer the other candidates dilute the superior "not Trump" vote.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

I think it primarily says that they're TERRIFIED of supporting someone who takes the conservative message seriously and pushes it unabashed. They consider such a thing to make a candidate "Unelectable" while the dems push an honest to god socialist who's gaining popularity like wildfire.

This is absolutely delusional.

Obama Worship Syndrome - Ben Shapiro