The Republican Primary Race Is Filling Up

[Timjoebillybob]

I'm careful about what I hear him say in debates, it usually requires a bit of thinking and analyzing to get to the bottom of it.

A lot of it is formulated speech to trip up the press and make a headline the next day for more free advertisement.

The policy I've heard him preaching since the beginning is the policy I see sitting on his website still today, so it's hard for me to see what you're seeing.

So you say he lies, which is why you trust him.

 

[jamil]

A large part of the electorate simply want to punish the establishment for ignoring voters for the last 20-30 years. No better punch in the face to the elites than voting for Trump or Sanders.
Donald Trump is winning, and an avowed socialist just beat Hillary in Michigan. Michigan. Let that sink in.

No, the Michigan win makes sense. In the South Hillary won 90% of the black vote and a big chunk of blue collar workers' votes. The pollsters apparently built that heavy likelihood into their models. But in Michigan Hillary only won 60% of blacks. And didn't do as well among blue collar workers. I think the pollsters shouldn't assume that blacks and blue collar workers will go for Hillary in the rust belt the same as they did in the south. Rust belt workers have seen their high paying manufacturing jobs go to China and Mexico over the last generation or so, and they largely blame the trade agreements for that. Hillary supported those and I think that hurts her.

I think we'll see Bernie do well in other rust belt states as well. And we'll see Trump do well in rust belt states for the same reason.

I'm careful about what I hear him say in debates, it usually requires a bit of thinking and analyzing to get to the bottom of it.

A lot of it is formulated speech to trip up the press and make a headline the next day for more free advertisement.

The policy I've heard him preaching since the beginning is the policy I see sitting on his website still today, so it's hard for me to see what you're seeing.

I think I just heard you say you selectively listen to Trump.

It's what T.Lex is talking about. It's what that other thread is about. Chris Wallace drilled trump on that issue because news came out that Trump used a lot of these workers. Instead of defending that, Trump flip-flopped and said he changed his opinion, he said because businesses need workers. He said that he would change his website to reflect the change. But he didn't change the website. I suspect that the reason he handled Wallace's question that way is because TRUMP WANTS YOU! to continue to believe in him.

So you say he lies, which is why you trust him.

Honestly, I didn't get that meaning out of it. I heard he selectively hears.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

I've no problem with how Rubio had changed his campaign from "win" to "make sure Trump doesn't win"

He's being pretty honest about it, wanting to avoid a disastrous presidency.

Once that's assured, I can see Rubio endorsing Cruz near the end.

 

[Tombs]

I think I just heard you say you selectively listen to Trump.

It's what T.Lex is talking about. It's what that other thread is about. Chris Wallace drilled trump on that issue because news came out that Trump used a lot of these workers. Instead of defending that, Trump flip-flopped and said he changed his opinion, he said because businesses need workers. He said that he would change his website to reflect the change. But he didn't change the website. I suspect that the reason he handled Wallace's question that way is because TRUMP WANTS YOU! to continue to believe in him.

I went back and reviewed the footage from that debate.

I don't know, I'm still looking for where he said something he'd have to change from, or soften, to be able to be considered to be flip-flopping. His website's policy does not claim to end the H1-B program, and I haven't heard him say as such anywhere.

I think something got lost in communication somewhere.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

As evidenced by his clothing line being made in America.

I thought about that later.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Couple of days old and I can't remember where this was on the time line of the earlier Rubio dropping out info. Fox News Reports Rubio's Money Men Say He'll End Campaign Before Florida Primary | Daily Wire

 

[Jludo]

A large part of the electorate simply want to punish the establishment for ignoring voters for the last 20-30 years. No better punch in the face to the elites than voting for Trump or Sanders.
Donald Trump is winning, and an avowed socialist just beat Hillary in Michigan. Michigan. Let that sink in.

Would've preferred the Ron Paul punch to the face...

 

[Tombs]

Wow! Trump had to cancel his Chicago rally today over security concerns.

Complete madhouse.

http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/17695/web

Live footage of the protests

[video=youtube;VVszzOp3iWM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVszzOp3iWM[/video]

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Trump cancels rally in Chicago due to security concerns.

 

[jamil]

I went back and reviewed the footage from that debate.

I don't know, I'm still looking for where he said something he'd have to change from, or soften, to be able to be considered to be flip-flopping. His website's policy does not claim to end the H1-B program, and I haven't heard him say as such anywhere.

I don't know how much clearer it can be.

KELLY: Mr. Trump, your campaign website to this day argues that more visas for highly skilled workers would, quote, "decimate American workers". However, at the CNBC debate, you spoke enthusiastically in favor of these visas. So, which is it?


TRUMP: I'm changing. I'm changing. We need highly skilled people in this country, and if we can't do it, we'll get them in. But, and we do need in Silicon Valley, we absolutely have to have.

So, we do need highly skilled, and one of the biggest problems we have is people go to the best colleges. They'll go to Harvard, they'll go to Stanford, they'll go to Wharton, as soon as they're finished they'll get shoved out. They want to stay in this country. They want to stay here desperately, they're not able to stay here. For that purpose, we absolutely have to be able to keep the brain power in this country.

(APPLAUSE)


KELLY: So you abandoning the position on your website...


TRUMP: ... I'm changing it, and I'm softening the position because we have to have talented people in this country.

 

[Tombs]

I don't know how much clearer it can be.

KELLY: Mr. Trump, your campaign website to this day argues that more visas for highly skilled workers would, quote, "decimate American workers". However, at the CNBC debate, you spoke enthusiastically in favor of these visas. So, which is it?


TRUMP: I'm changing. I'm changing. We need highly skilled people in this country, and if we can't do it, we'll get them in. But, and we do need in Silicon Valley, we absolutely have to have.

So, we do need highly skilled, and one of the biggest problems we have is people go to the best colleges. They'll go to Harvard, they'll go to Stanford, they'll go to Wharton, as soon as they're finished they'll get shoved out. They want to stay in this country. They want to stay here desperately, they're not able to stay here. For that purpose, we absolutely have to be able to keep the brain power in this country.

(APPLAUSE)


KELLY: So you abandoning the position on your website...


TRUMP: ... I'm changing it, and I'm softening the position because we have to have talented people in this country.

To change you must first have something to change FROM.

I'd like to point out that Kelly lied as well, this is what his website says that she's referencing:
"Mark Zuckerberg’s personal Senator, Marco Rubio, has a bill to triple H-1Bs that would decimate women and minorities."

The word "decimate" is not use anywhere else.

 

[Dead Duck]

Just another normal weekend in Chicago.....

 

[jamil]

To change you must first have something to change FROM.

I'd like to point out that Kelly lied as well, this is what his website says that she's referencing:
"Mark Zuckerberg’s personal Senator, Marco Rubio, has a bill to triple H-1Bs that would decimate women and minorities."

The word "decimate" is not use anywhere else.

I was wondering how you'd deal with the cognitive dissonance. So you're going with rationalizing.

 

[17 squirrel]

Just another normal weekend in Chicago.....

Things are winding up... It's a very diverse crowd. Let's see how interesting it may get..

 

[Tombs]

I was wondering how you'd deal with the cognitive dissonance. So you're going with rationalizing.

So your stance is that Kelly didn't lie? So can you screen cap me from his website where it says the line she is quoting? Not to mention you've still failed to show what he was changing from.

Anyway, new live stream for the protests:

[video=youtube;vOTEbEEwoJg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOTEbEEwoJg[/video]

 

[tbhausen]

Conversely, Trump will take us back to the country as we knew it.... and not in a good way. I'd rather watch Mississippi Burning, not live it.

More of this? It's truly become tiresome.

 

[Tombs]

Police scanner just said there's a group with bats and hammers who are destroying vehicles.

 

[bwframe]

Just another normal weekend in Chicago.....

Things are winding up... It's a very diverse crowd. Let's see how interesting it may get..

Something tells me it will be a long hot summer.

 

[Expat]

Whatever happened to the dogs and fire hoses?

 

[tbhausen]

Who's the genius that scheduled a Trump rally at a college campus in Chicago, of all places?