The Republican Primary Race Is Filling Up

[GodFearinGunTotin]

If he's not a citizen by birth, then he's not a citizen at all. There are only two classes of citizen. Natural and naturalized. If he's not a natural citizen by birth then he's not a citizen at all. He's never been naturalized. Send the ****er home to Canada.

Let that sink in, birthers.

 

[JTScribe]

Yeah, let's talk about that crossover vote. In from exit polls I've seen there are 3 kinds of dems voting for Trump. First, the voters who legitimately want Trump to win, for example, working class voters who want made in America to mean something again. I think they're pretty solidly Trump supporters. Second some democrats have their "middle finger" voters too and aren't all that happy with a party that puts up a socialist and a criminal. The third kind are strategic voters, democrats who vote for Trump in open primaries because they pay attention to the polls that say Hillary beats trump easiest.

Don't forget that Trump polls the worst in the "no-****ing-way" category. There's not a "#nevercruz" or "#neverrubio" hashtag trending on social media. We say conservatives didn't show up for Romney? A significantly larger number of Republicans have vowed #nevertrump than stayed home for Romney.

For crying out loud, Tombs, do you honestly think that all those Democrats voting for Trump in open primaries are planning to actually vote for any Republican in the general election? Some aren't crossing over for strategic reasons. But do you think the crossovers for Trump that actually will vote for him in the general election will make up for #nevertrump?

If Cruz's eligibility becomes an issue in the general election then they'll need to kick him out of the senate as well. If he's not a citizen by birth, then he's not a citizen at all. There are only two classes of citizen. Natural and naturalized. If he's not a natural citizen by birth then he's not a citizen at all. He's never been naturalized. Send the ****er home to Canada.

Unfortunately, #nevercruz IS out there. Most of the people pushing it are Rubio supporters it seems.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Let that sink in, birthers.

I feel like an idiot for even considering it, but I there might be something there.

 

[MilliJac]

Between Trump and Cruz I can honestly feel alright flipping a coin, but the major issue I have for Cruz will play out in the general. (Yes, vastly different candidates, but in my eyes 2 potential positive outcomes, I just believe the risk with Trump is worth it.)

Call me crazy but I think his eligibility will become an issue if he ends up against hillary. I think Trump can easily handle the worst the dems will dish out, I'm not so sure Cruz can. I also doubt Cruz will pull the support from dems that Trump was managing to, because a lot of those disenfranchised Bernie supporters were going over to Trump, I just can't see them going to Cruz.

I'm just thankful to see nacro lubio is now finished.

Trump performs significantly worse than any other Republican candidate vs Hillary in the general, shown in essentially every poll that has been taken on the subject. Trump has the highest disapproval rating of any primary candidate that has ever been tested. To think that Trump has a better chance than Cruz in a general election is bat**** crazy, messiah worship delusional, completely ignorant, or any mixture of the 3.

 

[jamil]

Trump performs significantly worse than any other Republican candidate vs Hillary in the general, shown in essentially every poll that has been taken on the subject. Trump has the highest disapproval rating of any primary candidate that has ever been tested. To think that Trump has a better chance than Cruz in a general election is bat**** crazy, messiah worship delusional, completely ignorant, or any mixture of the 3.

Sometimes it needs to be pointed out.

 

[Thor]

Cruz won the delegate contest yesterday. Where he won he won significantly, where he came in 2nd he did so by narrow margins. 50 delegates for Cruz 34 for Trump.

The republicans need to close their primaries. They are dealing with what is in effect a hostile takeover by non-republicans. Trump will try to pick up those Bernie supporter in the general by running to the left of hitlery. The R base will either sit home or write in a candidate they wouldn't be ashamed of. If they stayed home because they weren't enthused for Romney they will go negative for someone they despise, and Drumpfs eccentric and insulting debate and profane arena performances are increasing that level of disdain.

 

[MisterChester]

Cruz won the delegate contest yesterday. Where he won he won significantly, where he came in 2nd he did so by narrow margins. 50 delegates for Cruz 34 for Trump.

The republicans need to close their primaries. They are dealing with what is in effect a hostile takeover by non-republicans. Trump will try to pick up those Bernie supporter in the general by running to the left of hitlery. The R base will either sit home or write in a candidate they wouldn't be ashamed of. If they stayed home because they weren't enthused for Romney they will go negative for someone they despise, and Drumpfs eccentric and insulting debate and profane arena performances are increasing that level of disdain.

Why should they be closed? It's makes it more likely for an unelectable candidate to win.

 

[chipbennett]

What's he saying.....? "Hey guys, it's Saturday, and many of my supporters, that didn't vote, were too busy burning crosses?"

Transaction denied. The race card is overdrawn.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Transaction denied. The race card is overdrawn.

No, not really. This is the unique opportunity to see if people who rant and rave about others are as equally fallible. Donald Trump is leaning hard on racial divisiveness. He's using the same tactics as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. I don't get into debates about those two, because most things said about them are correct, and I refuse to support them.
But here we are America, and now there's a guy from the other side doing the exact same thing. This is your chance to prove that you're above the pettiness of Jackson and Sharpton, and reject Trump outright..... but as we all know, that's not happening, so what gives?

 

[INPatriot]

Trump performs significantly worse than any other Republican candidate vs Hillary in the general, shown in essentially every poll that has been taken on the subject. Trump has the highest disapproval rating of any primary candidate that has ever been tested...

This would be one instance where the RNC AND DNC could both be skewing those polls to keep the conservatives and independents that lean conservative away from Trump. As soon as it was reported that Bill Clinton "was on the record" stating Marco seemed to be the biggest challenge to Hillary, I knew Marco was the person the Clinton machine wanted to face. As far as the RNC, they could skew that poll data to keep conservatives in the party away from Trump because they know they can't control Trump. Just another instance of the candidate being picked by the oppisition.

 

[Kutnupe14]

In other words, a Trump supporter is no better than a supporter of Sharpton or Jackson. They are all cut from the same cloth.

 

[mrjarrell]

The gop shouldn't be surprised by Trump. They spent years creating his base and now they're having their day.

Free Association: TGIF: Trump's Creators

The Donald Trump phenomenon is indeed the creature of the Republican establishment, but there's more to it than that.

For decades the Republican leadership (committed to corporate privilege and costly empire) encouraged a base of jingoists, protectionists, nativists, and other "politically incorrect" types, whom it then largely took for granted. The leadership wanted their votes, but not their opinions. It never expected those folks to one day embrace a presidential candidate who said aloud whatever they were thinking. So it underestimated Trump and now is in big trouble.

But the Republican elite is not the only Victor Frankenstein in this story. There's another, related creator of the Trump creature: government.

 

[Twangbanger]

Unfortunately, #nevercruz IS out there. Most of the people pushing it are Rubio supporters it seems.

You bet your bippy it's out there. It's just that for the moment, the credible threat of a Trump nomination is keeping it sealed in the can. It is one of the surprises of this contest, to learn a chunk of the GOP don't care very strongly about more debt, immigration, and trade deals - as long as Hillary Clinton isn't the one signing them into law. Heck, even Hillary has found it necessary to jettison political baggage and rhetorically tack away from some of those issues, for purposes of saving her butt in the campaign. Meanwhile, the political "tin ear" of the GOP just hears crickets.

I've come to the conclusion there's only one thing which might "attitude adjust" the GOP back to a configuration that can win White House elections again: Marco Rubio will have to get the nomination - and lose to Hillary. That will be a mighty silent Wednesday morning in the GOP, when Hillary's "negatives" and "non-blackness" take their place alongside Obama's Muslim-sounding middle name on the list of things that could not swing an election for the GOP.

But even then, I'm not sure that will get the message through. Consider: Republicans (and their donors) will likely still control at least one house of Congress. We will still have our guns (and our entitlements). Companies will still have their cheap labor. And abortion and gay-marriage opponents will still have their, um...(ok, scratch that - they've pretty much lost the game on all fronts, haven't they?) So but yeah, for the most part, life will still be ok in America.

...Until Clarence Thomas gets a couple more millimeters of arterial plaque wedged in the right spot.

 

[BugI02]

Trump performs significantly worse than any other Republican candidate vs Hillary in the general, shown in essentially every poll that has been taken on the subject. Trump has the highest disapproval rating of any primary candidate that has ever been tested. To think that Trump has a better chance than Cruz in a general election is bat**** crazy, messiah worship delusional, completely ignorant, or any mixture of the 3.

You will likely think me delusional, because I don't put much faith in the polling about the general election currently available. What makes me think it's a bit off is that Sanders beats every Republican like a drum ​(go ahead, check RCP - I'll wait). So I ask you, do you think thats accurate?

 

[BugI02]

In other words, a Trump supporter is no better than a supporter of Sharpton or Jackson. They are all cut from the same cloth.

That's quite the leap there, Bob Beamon

 

[Twangbanger]

You will likely think me delusional, because I don't put much faith in the polling about the general election currently available. What makes me think it's a bit off is that Sanders beats every Republican like a drum ​(go ahead, check RCP - I'll wait). So I ask you, do you think thats accurate?

The people pointing up those poll numbers are ignoring one, major thing: the Democrat Party Mouth Smashing Machine hasn't gone to work on Marco Rubio yet. We'll see how durable his "electability" numbers are. There is one bedrock thing you cannot change about him: he is a wimp. Remember that roller-coaster feeling you got when Chris Christie plowed into him - and he just stood there with deer-headlight eyes? Remember how the media spun that for the following week? That's what we have to look forward to when he is the nominee.

That was it. The fear. You can smell it. He's a choker. He is not going to be able to play Rockem-Sockem Robots with the Clintons.

 

[Tombs]

The people pointing up those poll numbers are ignoring one, major thing: the Democrat Party Mouth Smashing Machine hasn't gone to work on Marco Rubio yet. We'll see how durable his "electability" numbers are. There is one bedrock thing you cannot change about him: he is a wimp. Remember that roller-coaster feeling you got when Chris Christie plowed into him - and he just stood there with deer-headlight eyes? Remember how the media spun that for the following week? That's what we have to look forward to when he is the nominee.

That was it. The fear. You can smell it. He's a choker. He is not going to be able to play Rockem-Sockem Robots with the Clintons.

Rubio just doesn't know what he's doing, at all.

Maybe he knows about politics to some degree, but he doesn't understand how to speak to a crowd off the cuff, nor answer questions he hasn't rehearsed.

I distinctly remember the first few times I heard him speak and thought, "This guy is so polished he's either a robot or does nothing but rehearse pre-written speeches for a living."

I'm still struggling to understand how he has achieved any support at all. Especially considering not only how little he voted, but what he actually voted in favor of, which is the terrifying part for someone who bills themselves as a tea party conservative.

 

[Twangbanger]

What's he saying.....? "Hey guys, it's Saturday, and many of my supporters, that didn't vote, were too busy burning crosses?"

 

[Kutnupe14]

That's quite the leap there, Bob Beamon

Yeah, like 2 inches. Trump's politics are those if racial divisiveness. Put a track suit on him, a tan, and a bad perm, and he's Al Sharpton.

 

[Tombs]

So someone tell me how hillary wouldn't utterly destroy Cruz with something as simple as this?

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