The republican party will soon be gone...

[cobber]

If the Republican Party were really to disappear, the Democrats would fracture over internal issues.

The GOP will rebrand, and in eight years we'll hear stories about how the Democrat Party is disappearing (heard those during the Reagan years, didn't happen).

 

[mrjarrell]

The gop has to pull out the stops and go the way of Daniel's. They have to drop this social issue garbage they keep supporting and focus on the economy and freedom. Those are winners with the youth vote, as Priebus is finding out.

Why Republicans Are Out Of Step With Young Voters : NPR

 

[cobber]

The gop has to pull out the stops and go the way of Daniel's. They have to drop this social issue garbage they keep supporting and focus on the economy and freedom. Those are winners with the youth vote, as Priebus is finding out.

Why Republicans Are Out Of Step With Young Voters : NPR

If you cut the social issues out, I don't think the Democrats would have much traction. But that's a huge IF.

 

[CarmelHP]

The gop has to pull out the stops and go the way of Daniel's. They have to drop this social issue garbage they keep supporting and focus on the economy and freedom. Those are winners with the youth vote, as Priebus is finding out.

Why Republicans Are Out Of Step With Young Voters : NPR

So if "dropping social issues" means embracing carbon taxes and accepting gun bans, then you're OK with that? Leave me out.

 

[mrjarrell]

So if "dropping social issues" means embracing carbon taxes and accepting gun bans, then you're OK with that? Leave me out.

Gun bans are a 2nd Amendment issue. A freedom issue, not a social issue. Carbon taxes are an economic issue, not a social issue. But, feel free to keep supporting the losing method and alienating generations of potential voters. Mitch knew what he was talking about, too bad the rank file is too stupid to listen.

 

[CarmelHP]

Gun bans are a 2nd Amendment issue. A freedom issue, not a social issue. Carbon taxes are an economic issue, not a social issue. But, feel free to keep supporting the losing method and alienating generations of potential voters. Mitch knew what he was talking about, too bad the rank file is too stupid to listen.

Yeah, gun issues are usually classed under "social issues" and that article you linked has one of the little economic freedom darlings declaring "climate change is a reality!" The stupid are the ones who either don't know what exactly they're pushing or that think that no one will their hidden "progressive" agenda. The "generations of potential voters" usually grow out of their stupid stage.

 

[mrjarrell]

Well, just continue to do the same, stupid things and see how that works out for you all. I'm certainly not looking forward to a few decades of democrat rule, but folks like you are more than happy to throw it to them.Keep on keeping on with the same old tired **** and see where it gets you. The gop is going nowhere fast. And they're speeding up.

 

[87iroc]

I think we'll see the Republican party move to the center(aka farther left) and the tea partiers and more conservatives split off...BUT I think that the Dems have a good shot of holding the presidency and possibly the senate for a long time. If the tea partiers break from the GOP, though...I suspect the House will swing to the Dems too.

Thats what they're hoping for.

One thing about it...the Dems have their far left loonies...but they're not going to break off.

As for 'why don't they call them out on it'...I suspect they have been...but it doesn't get reported as the dems control the major media branches too.

With the sequester Obama now has the stage to blame the GOP for the next 4 yrs setting up whomever comes next. The 2A stuff is the only thing that can derail his agenda there...BUT he's very good at 'Us vs them'....by 2014 it will be a America vs the Far Right NRA nutjobs that will be in the campaign ads.

 

[zippy23]

It would get reported if our side called them out. Romney's first night of the debates actually went well because he kind of went after the president, then what happened the next debate? NOTHING. they dont call him or the democrats out on their lies. Its real easy, Look at Obama in the eye and say, DID YOU CLOSE GITMO AS PROMISED? Thats all you have to ask and you'll see him squirm and laugh and lie, all you need is one thing to discredit someone on national TV, then you can go after whatever you want, as he was just previous proven a liar. Its debating 101, its common sense 101, its pathetic the republicans dont do it. And as far as democrats splitting over internal issues, when has this happened? they do whatever they are told from the top down, they never vote against their party, if they dont like something then they just force the dems in charge to give their state some money and they'll vote for it. I'm just saying that i think the party is done for, this is terrible for our country of course but good because they party is garbage anyways since they stand up against nothing. They only thing i have a problem with are the people that wouldnt vote republican(the ones who are conservatives that didnt like romney) why in the world would you NOT vote against the democrats? your point is not proven to anyone other than allowing them to get voted in, even you ron paul people(ron paul has some great ideas), he will never win on his own, thats why he ran as a republican this time! we have a 2 party system and its garbage i know, but thats your choices, how can you vote for someone or a party(libertarian) that you know has no chance? Sure its the lesser of two evils but if thats your choice then how can you pick neither? Thats crazy

 

[CarmelHP]

Well, just continue to do the same, stupid things and see how that works out for you all. I'm certainly not looking forward to a few decades of democrat rule, but folks like you are more than happy to throw it to them.Keep on keeping on with the same old tired **** and see where it gets you. The gop is going nowhere fast. And they're speeding up.

Since you've previously expressed your hatred for the Republican Party, I find it hard to believe that you have it's best interests at heart. It's ironic that the above applies far more for the Libertarian Party which you profess to be a part of, but it seems you're incapable of recognizing it. Physician, heal thyself. When the LP wins a national election, then come back and lecture us on your brilliant electoral theories.

 

[HavokCycle]

GOP has been moving towards a progressive/moderate trend. doing so is indeed a death knell for the party. tea party is gaining speed, as is the libertarian movement, but quite frankly without the money that backs the GOP, no one will have a chance.
people like Rand Paul, or Paul Ryan, will have to adopt the true GOP into their own agenda to have a chance.
ignorance goes both ways you know, just as there are as many people that vote on Dem party lines, there are people that vote on GOP lines. it won't change. trying to inject a third party into the system WONT work. not enough money to make a successful campaign.

 

[mrjarrell]

Since you've previously expressed your hatred for the Republican Party, I find it hard to believe that you have it's best interests at heart. It's ironic that the above applies far more for the Libertarian Party which you profess to be a part of, but it seems you're incapable of recognizing it. Physician, heal thyself. When the LP wins a national election, then come back and lecture us on your brilliant electoral theories.

Don't change the subject to deflect from the fact that your party is imploding. The LP has no delusions in most races they engage in, unlike your guys. We're growing and trying to spread a message of limited government and fiscal restraint, (something the gop abandoned years ago). The former governor of Indiana had it right. You bozo's need to dump the social issues and concentrate on reality. No wonder he didn't want to run. He saw the future of your party and it's in the waste bin.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Don't change the subject to deflect from the fact that your party is imploding. The LP has no delusions in most races they engage in, unlike your guys. We're growing and trying to spread a message of limited government and fiscal restraint, (something the gop abandoned years ago). The former governor of Indiana had it right. You bozo's need to dump the social issues and concentrate on reality. No wonder he didn't want to run. He saw the future of your party and it's in the waste bin.

The clowns that run the LP and the clowns they nominate hardly are the ones to be advising winning campaign strategy. The growth you continually tout couldn't even surpass the record of LP vote (% of the vote) in a year when a RINO was running against an incumbent socialist. If there was ever a presidential election that favored a party of real alternatives, this was it. You can keep spinning it, running the LP marketing line, if you like but the LP's immature, sophomoric tact on social issues rather than implementing constitutional changes, and restoring our liberties in a logical, principled manner, simply turns people off. Be happy being the true 1 percenters.

 

[CarmelHP]

Don't change the subject to deflect from the fact that your party is imploding. The LP has no delusions in most races they engage in, unlike your guys. We're growing and trying to spread a message of limited government and fiscal restraint, (something the gop abandoned years ago). The former governor of Indiana had it right. You bozo's need to dump the social issues and concentrate on reality. No wonder he didn't want to run. He saw the future of your party and it's in the waste bin.

Well, if, as you claim, the Libertarian Party is already doing what you prescribe for the Republican Party, why is the President not Gary Johnson and why has your party struggled to get 1% of the vote in every election in the past 40 years? You're in no position to offer advice to Republicans, whom you hate anyway. The LP has grown from .42% of the vote 40 years ago to .99% of the vote last year with a high water mark of 1.06% of the vote 30 years ago. How exactly can you claim a recipe for success?

 

[mrjarrell]

The clowns that run the LP and the clowns they nominate hardly are the ones to be advising winning campaign strategy. The growth you continually tout couldn't even surpass the record of LP vote (% of the vote) in a year when a RINO was running against an incumbent socialist. If there was ever a presidential election that favored a party of real alternatives, this was it. You can keep spinning it, running the LP marketing line, if you like but the LP's immature, sophomoric tact on social issues rather than implementing constitutional changes, and restoring our liberties in a logical, principled manner, simply turns people off. Be happy being the true 1 percenters.

Dropping the social issues was a Mitch Daniel's strategy, not an LP strategy. We don't embrace your lunacy by any stretch. Mitch was right and you guys failure to follow his suggestion is going to doom your party. It's not about the LP, it's about the gop. Deflect all you want. At the end of the day, it won't change anything. You guys are committing suicide and taking lots of people along with you. Stay the course. Embrace the suck.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Dropping the social issues was a Mitch Daniel's strategy, not an LP strategy. We don't embrace your lunacy by any stretch. Mitch was right and you guys failure to follow his suggestion is going to doom your party. It's not about the LP, it's about the gop. Deflect all you want. At the end of the day, it won't change anything. You guys are committing suicide and taking lots of people along with you. Stay the course. Embrace the suck.

And maybe if you guys had followed Mitch's strategy, you may have well made a respectable showing in the results. You guys are happy running some sort of club rather than an effective alternative to the the stupid party and the socialist party. The "course" I'm on, is of no interest to your club-party.

 

[CarmelHP]

Dropping the social issues was a Mitch Daniel's strategy, not an LP strategy. We don't embrace your lunacy by any stretch. Mitch was right and you guys failure to follow his suggestion is going to doom your party. It's not about the LP, it's about the gop. Deflect all you want. At the end of the day, it won't change anything. You guys are committing suicide and taking lots of people along with you. Stay the course. Embrace the suck.

Well, keep embracing the illogical. An LPer accusing the GOP of doing the same thing over and over without success is risible, not to mention the height of hypocrisy. Now, your suggestion for success is for the GOP to adopt the same positions as the LP, a party that has barely managed 1% in 40 years. Stay on your funny fun, I don't think anyone needs your perverse advice.

 

[mrjarrell]

And maybe if you guys had followed Mitch's strategy, you may have well made a respectable showing in the results. You guys are happy running some sort of club rather than an effective alternative to the the stupid party and the socialist party. The "course" I'm on, is of no interest to your club-party.

Johnson increased our presidential vote totals. That's a win in our column. You guys, on the other hand, lost desperately needed seats in the senate, by running fools who embraced the social issues. You're going to continue to lose more and more essential voters as time goes on by being fools. We may not be winning major elections, but our message is getting out there. Yours is too and the message says that the gop is stuck on stupid.

 

[mrjarrell]

Well, keep embracing the illogical. An LPer accusing the GOP of doing the same thing over and over without success is risible, not to mention the height of hypocrisy. Now, your suggestion for success is for the GOP to adopt the same positions as the LP, a party that has barely managed 1% in 40 years. Stay on your funny fun, I don't think anyone needs your perverse advice.

Mitch Daniel's, the former REPUBLICAN governor of Indiana espoused the "no social issues" strategy. Not the LP. If you have an issue with that strategy then let him know. I'll side with his strategy over yours. Unlike some in his party, he knew what he was talking about. Too bad you people aren't smart enough to listen. Keep driving voters away, it seems to be working out well for you.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Well, keep embracing the illogical. An LPer accusing the GOP of doing the same thing over and over without success is risible, not to mention the height of hypocrisy. Now, your suggestion for success is for the GOP to adopt the same positions as the LP, a party that has barely managed 1% in 40 years. Stay on your funny fun, I don't think anyone needs your perverse advice.

Carmel, I don't think the LP is of any concern. I think they like their position as a footnote in the US political landscape. It is laughable that their supporters ridicule others for doing exactly as they do. What's sad, for them, as they seem unable to admit their course is a political dead end.