The President Trump Immigration Thread

[jamil]

What I especially like about the ruling is that the unanimous decision kind of wipes the smug look off the faces of the pundits who proselytized to the uninformed that the 9th circuit ruling was sound jurisprudence. I'm just shocked that RBG had the intellectual honesty to side with sanity.

 

[IndyDave1776]

What I especially like about the ruling is that the unanimous decision kind of wipes the smug look off the faces of the pundits who proselytized to the uninformed that the 9th circuit ruling was sound jurisprudence. I'm just shocked that RBG had the intellectual honesty to side with sanity.

Something to consider about RBG is that in spite of her political leanings, she had also become a close friend of Scalia and took his death pretty hard. That may have led her to rethink some things including the implications of the strange circumstances of his death.

 

[KLB]

It isn't like the USSC doesn't have a good number of 9-0(or 8-0) decisions.

 

[jamil]

Something to consider about RBG is that in spite of her political leanings, she had also become a close friend of Scalia and took his death pretty hard. That may have led her to rethink some things including the implications of the strange circumstances of his death.

I'm not going to say they were crocodile tears. Perhaps it was after her mourning faded that she announced to the activists to bring their anti-gun cases to the SCOTUS, because they'd have the opportunity to rectify Heller. Of course she assumed that BHO would nominate and have confirmed an anti-gun zealot to the bench.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I'm not going to say they were crocodile tears. Perhaps it was after her mourning faded that she announced to the activists to bring their anti-gun cases to the SCOTUS, because they'd have the opportunity to rectify Heller. Of course she assumed that BHO would nominate and have confirmed an anti-gun zealot to the bench.

No argument here, but I have also considered that the effect I mentioned previously may be one that soaks in over time, haunting her into feeling more loyalty to Constitution and truth and less to the leftist cause, and also with the strange circumstances regarding Scalia's death, forcing her to consider the true nature of the agenda she has supported. It may awaken what conscience she has.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

So I'm curious - isn't the SCOTUS grafting language into the EO that it does not contain: this idea of "bona fide relationship"?

Trump travel ban injunction partly lifted by top US court - BBC News

I thought INGO didn't like judicial legislation (or, as in this case, executive-order-drafting). Or is it ok in this instance, because Trump?

That's a stretch T.

The phrase "bona fide relationship" simply describes the combination of the various parties from the 9th Circuit case and 4th Circuit case into one group.

No more, no less. It neither "gives" nor "takes" from the parties nor the EO.

 

[HoughMade]

It's a way to lift the injunction while acknowledging the concerns of the lower courts...pending a final decision.

 

[ghitch75]

Illegal immigrant mom accused in stabbing deaths of children, husband smiles in court | Fox News

 

[Kutnupe14]

Illegal immigrant mom accused in stabbing deaths of children, husband smiles in court | Fox News

I'm going to go with her being bat**** crazy rather than being an illegal as being the cause of this tragedy. While I can see why here status would be included in the story, I don't see it as being so critical as to include it in the title.

 

[ghitch75]

but if she wasn't here she would have killed anyone on US soil......

 

[actaeon277]

I read the title wrong.
I was wondering why the husband was smiling.

Yup, crazy.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I read the title wrong.
I was wondering why the husband was smiling.

Yup, crazy.

You're not alone on that, misinterpreting the title or concluding that the woman is batsh*t crazy.

 

[KLB]

You're not alone on that, misinterpreting the title or concluding that the woman is batsh*t crazy.

Same here.

 

[ghitch75]

Indy not helping......sad very sad....

Marion County Sheriff's Department reducing cooperation with ICE - Local News - 13 WTHR Indianapolis

 

[Sylvain]

Indy not helping......sad very sad....

Marion County Sheriff's Department reducing cooperation with ICE - Local News - 13 WTHR Indianapolis

Isn't it a good thing that they are not willing to detain someone that has not commited a criminal offense?

 

[bwframe]

Isn't it a good thing that they are not willing to detain someone that has not commited a criminal offense?

Illegality being in our country isn't a criminal offense?

 

[ghitch75]

Isn't it a good thing that they are not willing to detain someone that has not commited a criminal offense?

they won't hold anyone that is just here illegally.........from the article ..

[FONT=&amp]Basically, that means the Marion County Sheriff's Department would not be able to hold someone for ICE over just an immigration violation.[/FONT]

 

[Sylvain]

Illegality being in our country isn't a criminal offense?

Without the proof that they are there illegally they cannot be detained.
It's what the article says, local PD will only detain people if a judge says there is probable cause to do so, as it should be.

The problem is ICE using local PD to detain people while they figure out if they are here legally or not.
If they are here illegally then ICE can arrest them right away but local PD is not here to detain people without probable cause.

Would you be willing to be detained by your local PD for whatever reason until ICE shows up and determine that you are a lawful resident or not?

 

[IndyDave1776]

Indy not helping......sad very sad....

Marion County Sheriff's Department reducing cooperation with ICE - Local News - 13 WTHR Indianapolis

I would like to see obstruction charges for this.

 

[bwframe]

...Would you be willing to be detained by your local PD for whatever reason until ICE shows up and determine that you are a lawful resident or not?

Sure. It'd be short wait because the locals would already have access to that information, even if I didn't have it in my pocket.

Then again, my local sheriffs or judges aren't making decisions based on politics. They understand that they don't have a monopoly on their voter base and will be job hunting soon if they get that way.