The President Trump Immigration Thread

[Dead Duck]

Are you sure?

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...of-new-border-fence-after-30-months-in-office

Positive.
I won't even push your link. But keep looking. I know you'll find it.

 

[Phase2]

Trump is clearly willing to work "across the aisle" to make budget and funding deals to avoid another government shutdown. Deals that don't include funds for the wall.
Trump, Pelosi Reach Budget/Debt Limit Deal

And, despite promising that Mexico would pay for the wall, Trump refused to accept a brokered deal back in the day that would be a compromise, but would fund at least the start of the border wall. I'm sure INGO remembers the government shutdown Trump used to try an leverage money for the wall.

https://www.vox.com/2019/3/10/18258792/trump-border-wall-budget-request-2020

His actions reveal that he would rather avoid any meaningful progress on the border/immigration in favor of keeping it as a wedge issue.

Mind reading optional.

Let me remind you that Trump lost the previous budget shutdown utterly. The "brokered deal" had so many poison pills that is was unacceptable and he ended up getting alternate funding via the military budget instead. The evidence is quite against your claims and yet you still claim to understand this thoughts.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

Are you sure?

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...of-new-border-fence-after-30-months-in-office

A construction crew works to replace an old section of the U.S.-Mexico border fence on January 11, 2019, as seen from Tijuana, Mexico.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/19/politics/us-mexico-border-wall-numbers/index.html

 

[T.Lex]

Replacing means there was already a wall there. Not building something new. With money that had been allocated before his emergency declaration.

 

[BugI02]

Replacing means there was already a wall there. Not building something new. With money that had been allocated before his emergency declaration.

Perhaps he is just targeting resources at places where the problem is worse and the existing fencing is ineffective (I know, it's hard to believe a program Democrats reluctantly supported in 2006 would in any way be hamstrung or underfunded going forward)

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/10/6836...tion-mostly-occur-heres-what-the-data-tell-us
Where Does Illegal Immigration Mostly Occur? Here's What The Data Tell Us

The Tucson sector, which covers most of Arizona and is almost completely blocked by vehicle and pedestrian fencing, has seen a recent increase in apprehensions. In fiscal 2018, CBP caught about 52,000 people there, including an estimated 5,000 unaccompanied minors.


The sector of the Southwestern border with the fewest apprehensions, on the other hand, has almost no fencing. The Big Bend sector, starting in West Texas and extending about halfway down the state, is the largest individual sector guarded by CBP. The rough terrain of the mountain ranges and the Chihuahuan Desert make it a difficult place to cross. In fiscal 2018, CBP apprehended just 8,000 people there.

Seems disingenuous to argue simultaneously that 1) The wall is unneeded 2) The wall isn't economically efficient 3) The existing wall isn't working 4) Why is he trying to fix the existing wall instead of building new wall

If, as you argue, Trump doesn't want to do anything about illegal immigration because he wants the wedge issue; call his bluff. Fund the wall and ICE and get behind the four pillars. According to you, he won't take advantage of any of those opportunities so it's all good

 

[Alamo]

July migrant apprehensions plummeting 25%, Mexico’s help credited

 

[IndyDave1776]

July migrant apprehensions plummeting 25%, Mexico’s help credited

Funny what a credible threat to shut down the gravy train can do!

 

[2A_Tom]

Trump is all bluster and BS as long as he doesn't act Presidential the country will stagnate and nothing will get done.

 

[halfmileharry]

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Well, he is a cute little tyke.

 

[jamil]

Well, he is a cute little tyke.

His parents must have just taken the little guy to the carnival for cotton candy and face painting just before they were kidnapped by ICE.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

His parents must have just taken the little guy to the carnival for cotton candy and face painting just before they were kidnapped by ICE.

Yeah, I bet you're right!

 

[IndyDave1776]

Well, he is a cute little tyke.

I am sure he is a joy to have around.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I am sure he is a joy to have around.

They're so cute at that age.

 

[Phase2]

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[tsm]

And the Supremes just ruled that Trump can repurpose Military funds to wall building, so we’re going to get some new walls, not just refurbished old ones! About time.

 

[Libertarian01]

https://www.apnews.com/5d893d388c254c7fa83a1570112ae90e

 

[mmpsteve]

Just ran across this. Private funds building the wall? I havn't researched it yet, but is intriguing. We Build The Wall, Inc.: Saw YouTube vid where they built half a mile for 7 or 8 million, where another contractor said it would take 40 million, and the Army Corps of Engineers said it couldn't be done at all (was up a mountain section).

https://webuildthewall.us/help-buil...H2dADxxWubVswjjHLoghpNUWjOIyCp3gaAofEEALw_wcB

They claim to be the largest GoFundMe account in history.

.

 

[Kutnupe14]

https://www.apnews.com/5d893d388c254c7fa83a1570112ae90e

It's an interesting premise. If Congress holds the purse strings, and the president asks Congress to pay for something, should if Congress say "no," the president be able to take the money Congress have approved for something and fund the thing Congress has said "no" to?

Remember, it this should be true of whomever is in power.

 

[Nevermore]

It's an interesting premise. If Congress holds the purse strings, and the president asks Congress to pay for something, should if Congress say "no," the president be able to take the money Congress have approved for something and fund the thing Congress has said "no" to?

Remember, it this should be true of whomever is in power.

Congress already does this though. Ask anyone where the Social Security money (all in its own pretty little account under lock and key!) went. Might as well let the President do it too?