The Official Hot Rod Thread - Part 2: No Replacement For Displacement

[churchmouse]

All cleaned up ready to go get dirty again!
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[churchmouse]

I believe I have got a deal in place to get the rear clip built and up under my 64.
Buddy has the shop and the gear. I will be doing most of the welding and help him get it up in the car when the time comes.
We will cut the 12 bolt down and get it up in there as well. Then I can get serious with the brakes and all of the suspension hardware.
Hotchkis adjustable arms will hole the 12 bolt in place.

The fast bag air system will be removed from the car. I have a set of coil overs for the rear just not sure what I am doing up front yet.

 

[femurphy77]

This is why I no longer hunt the swap meets etc.
People suck.

I have always done my own rear end set ups once I learned how.
9" Fords are among the easiest to do so it amazes me that people screw them up.
I would much rather set up a ford than a GM 12 bolt.

Kinda like the old school 3 spd auto trannys; I drug an old C4 around for several years because I wanted to open it up and see what made 'em tick. After I tore into it I decided that I could easily rebuild it myself. I found a vintage Motors manual that outlined the full rebuild, but a couple of specialty tools and did it myself. That particular tranny saw a lot of abuse in my full on autocross only car and I plan on installing it in the new one when I get to that point. The only reason I chose not to rebuild the C6 for the Galaxie is that I was getting tired of working on it and needed a break. Although I've never done a rearend I have done gear boxes when I worked in industrial maintenance but again disgust with doing something over that I had already thought was done got the better of me.

 

[churchmouse]

Kinda like the old school 3 spd auto trannys; I drug an old C4 around for several years because I wanted to open it up and see what made 'em tick. After I tore into it I decided that I could easily rebuild it myself. I found a vintage Motors manual that outlined the full rebuild, but a couple of specialty tools and did it myself. That particular tranny saw a lot of abuse in my full on autocross only car and I plan on installing it in the new one when I get to that point. The only reason I chose not to rebuild the C6 for the Galaxie is that I was getting tired of working on it and needed a break. Although I've never done a rearend I have done gear boxes when I worked in industrial maintenance but again disgust with doing something over that I had already thought was done got the better of me.

In a 9" getting the pinion depth is the critical issue. It may take a couple of stabs at it to get the piece installed correctly. Once that is done the ring gear is cake.
People just get lazy and do not want to pull the pinion back out and get the bearing off to change the shim stack.

It is nearly the same in any rear end set up. Get the pinion in properly and the rest is gravy.

I have done a few auto's but damn they can be messy.

 

[churchmouse]

Oh yeah.....I took a serious look at the transmission. I thought I had acquired a 4L60 overdrive piece.

Turns out it is a 4L60-E and it will require a stand along controller to use it.
If I wanted to do the controller I would have gotten the stronger 4L80-E damn it.

 

[thunderchicken]

Dropped the 9" pumpkin off with Jason over at automotion yesterday morning. He called me about an hour later telling me that whoever "rebuilt" it did such a poor job of it that the gears are trashed even though they had less than 20 miles on them. In my possession anyway. I'm done with "good deals" unless I have an address and phone number so I can track the seller down later if necessary to return the part to the correct bodily orifice as needed.

I guess I'm getting naïve in my old age but I do remember when a persons word actually meant something. . . . . .

That sucks! The sad part is a "good deal" is rarely ever really a good deal when buying used parts. Been bit in the butt too many times. It might take me longer to build but usually I just suck it up and buy new parts. I have had my fill of abused, misused used up parts. There is usually a good reason they are being sold off

 

[thunderchicken]

Oh yeah.....I took a serious look at the transmission. I thought I had acquired a 4L60 overdrive piece.

Turns out it is a 4L60-E and it will require a stand along controller to use it.
If I wanted to do the controller I would have gotten the stronger 4L80-E damn it.

There's too much voodoo involved with automatic transmissions. Here is about what I know about them. Engine spins torque converter, converter spins pump causing a chain reaction of magic crap to happen and the tail shaft spins.

A man has got to know his limitations

 

[churchmouse]

There's too much voodoo involved with automatic transmissions. Here is about what I know about them. Engine spins torque converter, converter spins pump causing a chain reaction of magic crap to happen and the tail shaft spins.

A man has got to know his limitations

.....................so much truth here.

 

[bigretic]

So kid got hit and the 97 z28 is totaled anyone need an lt1 doner for a project cheap? Pm me

 

[femurphy77]

So kid got hit and the 97 z28 is totaled anyone need an lt1 doner for a project cheap? Pm me

Kid ok?

 

[Brad69]

Some pics from local Owensboro KY cruise in. 1st Saturday of every month it,s a laid back good time.
Right on the riverfront with restaurants and shopping if you spouse is not into cars.

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1970 LS5

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1 Owner car

 

[thunderchicken]

Where's Rusty been lately?

 

[halfmileharry]

Some pics from local Owensboro KY cruise in. 1st Saturday of every month it,s a laid back good time.
Right on the riverfront with restaurants and shopping if you spouse is not into cars.
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1970 LS5

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1 Owner car

All I'm getting is "INVALID ATTACHMENT" on your links.

 

[Brad69]

Are they working now?

 

[ChristianPatriot]

Are they working now?

Yep

 

[Gluemanz28]

I'm at the point where I need to change the oil in my 383 Blue Print engine.

I have not had a hot rod in several years but I ran Castrol 20/50 in my motors.

Blue Print not to use synthetic until 6000 miles on motor.

BP suggest 10/30 oil in the motor. That seems thin to me for a summer vehicle.

 

[halfmileharry]

I'm at the point where I need to change the oil in my 383 Blue Print engine.

I have not had a hot rod in several years but I ran Castrol 20/50 in my motors.

Blue Print not to use synthetic until 6000 miles on motor.

BP suggest 10/30 oil in the motor. That seems thin to me for a summer vehicle.

IF BP built it and suggests a certain oil then I'd go with that oil.

 

[PMR]

Hey all, just wanted to share my new project bought it today out of Billings MT. and it should be here late Sept to early Oct.

Plans are to do a Crown Vic front suspension and flip the rear axle to lower the whole thing 3-4 inches. No engine or trans in it so I can go with just about anything I want still working on that decision.

I should add, 1964 F100 two wheel drive.

I'm open to suggestions...

 

[Bigtanker]

Hey all, just wanted to share my new project bought it today out of Billings MT. and it should be here late Sept to early Oct.

Plans are to do a Crown Vic front suspension and flip the rear axle to lower the whole thing 3-4 inches. No engine or trans in it so I can go with just about anything I want still working on that decision.

I'm open to suggestions...

Whatever power plant you chose, stick to a Ford please. A nice warmed over 351W (with 2 turbos) should suffice.

Nice find!

 

[thunderchicken]

Hey all, just wanted to share my new project bought it today out of Billings MT. and it should be here late Sept to early Oct.

Plans are to do a Crown Vic front suspension and flip the rear axle to lower the whole thing 3-4 inches. No engine or trans in it so I can go with just about anything I want still working on that decision.

I should add, 1964 F100 two wheel drive.

I'm open to suggestions...

Ok, so you plan to lower it's stance.. What do you really plan to do with it? Mostly just a cruiser or are you going to make that truck work? What rear end is under it? Oh and you gotta keep a Ford engine in that thing. Don't let it be a crossdresser