The Official Hot Rod Thread - Part 2: No Replacement For Displacement

[thunderchicken]

I think I just vurped a little!

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/1977-datsun-b210zx/6333442046.html

I'm not sure which is tougher to comprehend; somebody building it or somebody creating kit to build it!

Looks like it was designed by a 10yo. If you squint your eyes and invision whatit would look like if the doors had what looks like missing parts, lower it so the rockers are only 4" off the ground...it might look kinda sporty.... Ummmm NO. DISREGARD

 

[churchmouse]

I think I just vurped a little!

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/1977-datsun-b210zx/6333442046.html

I'm not sure which is tougher to comprehend; somebody building it or somebody creating kit to build it!

Why did I click on the link.

 

[churchmouse]

This weekend Fall Classic at IRP

That was another race we always tried to run. The bad boys are there. I learned a lot about getting through a "Real" NHRA tech inspection.

 

[ChristianPatriot]

Goals

MMR Street Mod 1500SE 4.75 Liter 4V Longblock [441500SE] - $9,799.99 : Modular Motorsports, Home of the Worlds Fastest Modular Engines

 

[churchmouse]

Goals

MMR Street Mod 1500SE 4.75 Liter 4V Longblock [441500SE] - $9,799.99 : Modular Motorsports, Home of the Worlds Fastest Modular Engines

Questions....
1st...what is the HP range you are looking for.
2nd...how much juice can you put on your existing drive train.
3rd.....How much juice will that UniBody stang hold with out popping its cork.

There will be upgrades required as you climb the HP/Torque ladder. There are also huge smiles.

 

[ChristianPatriot]

Questions....
1st...what is the HP range you are looking for.
2nd...how much juice can you put on your existing drive train.
3rd.....How much juice will that UniBody stang hold with out popping its cork.

There will be upgrades required as you climb the HP/Torque ladder. There are also huge smiles.

Oh don’t worry it’ll never happen. It’s nice to have dreams though.

That motor. Twin turbos. Dual fuel system: pump gas for street, corn juice for the track. Built TH400. 9-inch. Cage.

But to answer your questions...
1st....Just enough to scare me/have fun
2nd....stock motor and drivetrain will handle 375-400ish at the wheels for quite a while
3rd....I’ll never be able to afford enough horsepower to worry about hurting the body.

 

[churchmouse]

Oh don’t worry it’ll never happen. It’s nice to have dreams though.

That motor. Twin turbos. Dual fuel system: pump gas for street, corn juice for the track. Built TH400. 9-inch. Cage.

But to answer your questions...
1st....Just enough to scare me/have fun
2nd....stock motor and drivetrain will handle 375-400ish at the wheels for quite a while
3rd....I’ll never be able to afford enough horsepower to worry about hurting the body.

Sounds like it will still bring out some smiles.

 

[ChristianPatriot]

Sounds like it will still bring out some smiles.

It at least needs to be able to keep up with the newest Mustangs and Camaros. They’re all in the 12s.

The stuff that I will realistically do should get me low 12s, high 11s with traction.

 

[churchmouse]

It at least needs to be able to keep up with the newest Mustangs and Camaros. They’re all in the 12s.

That is a feat unto itself. Going 12's is doable but not all that easy. That the factory is doing this with regularity is pretty cool.

 

[ChristianPatriot]

That is a feat unto itself. Going 12's is doable but not all that easy. That the factory is doing this with regularity is pretty cool.

I’m not a fan of all the complexity they’re putting into stuff nowadays but wow....easy power and sat-nav and cush leather....crazy

 

[churchmouse]

I’m not a fan of all the complexity they’re putting into stuff nowadays but wow....easy power and sat-nav and cush leather....crazy

And crazy expensive. But with a Warr.

If you are going to put that kind of juice through that stang you might want to look at upgrading the rear bushing and such. You would be amazed at the diff that will make. Especially if you get some good tires. That will expose the other weakness.

 

[ChristianPatriot]

And crazy expensive. But with a Warr.

If you are going to put that kind of juice through that stang you might want to look at upgrading the rear bushing and such. You would be amazed at the diff that will make. Especially if you get some good tires. That will expose the other weakness.

You like polyurethane?

 

[thunderchicken]

Oh don’t worry it’ll never happen. It’s nice to have dreams though.

That motor. Twin turbos. Dual fuel system: pump gas for street, corn juice for the track. Built TH400. 9-inch. Cage.

But to answer your questions...
1st....Just enough to scare me/have fun
2nd....stock motor and drivetrain will handle 375-400ish at the wheels for quite a while
3rd....I’ll never be able to afford enough horsepower to worry about hurting the body.

It only takes money. Lol.

 

[thunderchicken]

It at least needs to be able to keep up with the newest Mustangs and Camaros. They’re all in the 12s.

The stuff that I will realistically do should get me low 12s, high 11s with traction.

Then that means you want to go in the 10s. Lol. Seriously getting that Mustang to go low 11s shouldn't be that tough.

 

[churchmouse]

You like polyurethane?

Yes.
Question, and this goes to my total lack of Ford knowledge.....Is the stang a leaf spring car...????

 

[thunderchicken]

You like polyurethane?

Realistically how much cruising are you planning to do? How much comfort do you require?
Back in the day we used to put urethane bushings on everything. They are a huge improvement over stock rubber. IF you are looking to build something a little more serious and want adjustability then you need to go with spherical bearings and rod ends. Regardless of how serious you want to make it, at a minimum you need to have weld in subframe connectors. A few other suspension mods would be great but you don't have to do it all at once

 

[thunderchicken]

Yes.
Question, and this goes to my total lack of Ford knowledge.....Is the stang a leaf spring car...????

What model year?? I know anything newer than the 79 has coil springs.

 

[churchmouse]

Realistically how much cruising are you planning to do? How much comfort do you require?
Back in the day we used to put urethane bushings on everything. They are a huge improvement over stock rubber. IF you are looking to build something a little more serious and want adjustability then you need to go with spherical bearings and rod ends. Regardless of how serious you want to make it, at a minimum you need to have weld in subframe connectors. A few other suspension mods would be great but you don't have to do it all at once

That was why I asked the questions of him. No unitized body with a stick will handle a lot of juice especially if you put something sticky on the back.

Before the general public could open a catalog and build/buy anything they needed we would spin up aluminum pucks to replace the factory rubber inserts. This help control wheel hop. Leaf/coil springs both.
They were harsh but who freaking cared.

 

[churchmouse]

What model year?? I know anything newer than the 79 has coil springs.

CP's car was my question. I said do the bushings and then wondered if it was a leaf rear.

 

[Brad69]

Keep up with the new Mustangs and Camaros ?

I like the "Oh S$$$" look and then the straight ahead stare like you are not there!

Covette owners are the best at the "I don't see you" look!

I have noticed quite quite a few used supercharger systems for 2V 4.6s lately? I would think the supercharger, gears, exhaust combo would get you into the fight. Wheelhop will raise its ugly head the Cobras of same years are famous for it.