The insane social justice thread

[rob63]

Tennessee transgender bathroom bill dead for session

The relative value of various bathroom laws aside, does anybody know if we have had bathroom laws previous to now? I mean if a man went into the women's room was that something that could get you arrested before now, or not? I'm not saying we need such laws either, I'm just asking if they have existed?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

A timeless classic

 

[HoughMade]

If it were actually possible to hire women to do the exact, same job as men for 77% the cost, why would anyone ever hire a man?

 

[printcraft]

If it were actually possible to hire women to do the exact, same job as men for 77% the cost, why would anyone ever hire a man?

sexism

 

[HoughMade]

sexism

$$$>sexism

 

[eldirector]

sexism

Maybe if they identified as a man, they would make more?

Or, since equality is the goal, the men should identify as women, so they could make less.

I'm so confused.

 

[jamil]

Maybe if they identified as a man, they would make more?

Or, since equality is the goal, the men should identify as women, so they could make less.

I'm so confused.

This is the real goal of radical feminism.

 

[Hohn]

If it were actually possible to hire women to do the exact, same job as men for 77% the cost, why would anyone ever hire a man?

As it should be. Why wouldn't we want a sexist to overpay for labor by 23%? Let he who improperly discriminated bear the cost.

 

[HoughMade]

The True Story of the Gender Pay Gap - Freakonomics Freakonomics

 

[jamil]

If it were actually possible to hire women to do the exact, same job as men for 77% the cost, why would anyone ever hire a man?

As it should be. Why wouldn't we want a sexist to overpay for labor by 23%? Let he who improperly discriminated bear the cost.

While I agree with this sentiment, to be fair, the actual complaint is that discrimination and prejudice can cause the perception that women or some minorities can't do the same job. Maybe that happens in some occupations, but in my 35 years working in engineering and technical fields, I've not come across that perception for women. They are competent engineers, coders, managers, analysts and so on. If women are willing to do the same job for 77% less pay, I can't see an employer ever hiring men.

I have come across that perception for some minorities and that is unfortunate. And of late I've encountered that perception for millennials and some of that is earned.

 

[HoughMade]

If you get time, listen to the podcast above. Long story short, women are not making less for the same jobs. Women work different kinds of jobs and make career choices that cause income differences. There are numerous factors, but simply paying a woman less for the same job is virtually non-existent.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

While I agree with this sentiment, to be fair, the actual complaint is that discrimination and prejudice can cause the perception that women or some minorities can't do the same job. Maybe that happens in some occupations, but in my 35 years working in engineering and technical fields, I've not come across that perception for women. They are competent engineers, coders, managers, analysts and so on. If women are willing to do the same job for 77% less pay, I can't see an employer ever hiring men.

I have come across that perception for some minorities and that is unfortunate. And of late I've encountered that perception for millennials and some of that is earned.

To be fair, I have worked at places that had the perception that women couldn't do the job. They were willing to let them try, but very few could. These were manual labor jobs, and most of the women (and quite a few men) couldn't handle it, or had to be given the easier jobs. One place I worked at many years ago was a pallet rebuilding company. While I worked there they had a woman come in and apply, the boss told her he would be glad to hire her, but since she already had a job he asked if she would like to try it out. The supervisor brought her into the shop and put her at my station, she worked for maybe 30 seconds, shook her head and said this isn't for me. Another place I worked was shipping at a pork slaughter house. Part of the job was the stack off line, the boxes would come down a conveyor and had to be stacked on pallets. There were a couple of women who worked there, but when they were put on the line they had to be put in the sections with lighter boxes rather than rotating through them all like everyone else.

If you get time, listen to the podcast above. Long story short, women are not making less for the same jobs. Women work different kinds of jobs and make career choices that cause income differences. There are numerous factors, but simply paying a woman less for the same job is virtually non-existent.

I skimmed through the transcript, and I agree.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

BRK: US appeals court in Virginia: Banning transgender teen from boys' restroom is discriminatory.

 

[HoughMade]

BRK: US appeals court in Virginia: Banning transgender teen from boys' restroom is discriminatory.

Sure it is...but not illegal.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Pretty big for Dept of Education regs

http://www.ca4.uscourts.gov/Opinions/Published/152056.P.pdf

 

[jamil]

BRK: US appeals court in Virginia: Banning transgender teen from boys' restroom is discriminatory.

This is really an absurd precedence to set.

 

[eldirector]

I'm still trying to figure all this out. Is a "transgender boy" a boy that thinks he is a girl, or a girl that thinks she is a boy, or a person with both the boy and girl parts?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Good read:

Female student realized her gender privilege ‘once I took off my feminist blinders’

 

[ArcadiaGP]

damnable white people, with their devious and deceptive chronomancy

 

[ArcadiaGP]

A gay pastor wrote an anti-gay slur on a cake and tried to blame a gay baker.

Whole Foods is rightfully going after the ****bag for the hoax. Trying to create a controversy. Almost feel bad for the guy that no one believed him from the very beginning.

whole foods | anti-gay cake | hoax | legal action | law suit