The Insane "Social Justice" Thread pt IV

[DoggyDaddy]

It’s bits.

I think they changed it to bits to make it sound more impressive.

 

[nonobaddog]

I just did some speed tests. My router has a built in speed test function. I’m getting about 570mbps down. I did a speed test on my personal mackbook connected to wifi and got about 67mbps. Did one on my work mackbook connected to ethernet. Got well over 500. Did one on my phone just now and got 20. I have QoS set up on wifi for phones at low priority. High priority for my personal macbook. **** everyone’s else they get medium priority. We have maybe 20 devices connected at a given time. Phones. Laptops. TV’s. Roku’s, but they have high priority. VOIP has high priority. Gaming consoles have high priority.

It is very likely that people can have lower bandwidth at their device even though they have a high bandwidth connection. It gets spread out when you split it across many devices. Also, like like I said, I have an old router.

So it sounds like you agree they are using a worst case scenario to calculate the time saved and presenting to everybody without saying they are using a worst case scenario.



These guys say the USA average internet speed is 207 Mbps and the median speed is 121 Mbps.

https://fairinternetreport.com/United-States

 

[nonobaddog]

It’s bits.

Even some of my fellow programmers would get this wrong - How many bits in a byte?

 

[actaeon277]

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Even some of my fellow programmers would get this wrong - How many bits in a byte?

8 Mr. Cotter!

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Even some of my fellow programmers would get this wrong - How many bits in a byte?

How many bytes does it take to the center of a Tootsie Pop?

 

[jamil]

So it sounds like you agree they are using a worst case scenario to calculate the time saved and presenting to everybody without saying they are using a worst case scenario.



These guys say the USA average internet speed is 207 Mbps and the median speed is 121 Mbps.

https://fairinternetreport.com/United-States

I looked it up and the article I found said 120 mbps.

 

[nonobaddog]

8 Mr. Cotter!

No.
Byte is an unspecific and flexible term. Usually the number of bits used to store a character in memory. The early IBM ASCII computers used 7 bit bytes until they switched to EBCDIC 8 bit bytes and other weird ones have used almost any number under 24 bits per byte or some such ridiculous top end.
Technically an 8 bit byte is an octet.

But it is true today that the 8 bit byte is so common that nobody cares.

 

[nonobaddog]

I looked it up and the article I found said 120 mbps.

Obviously I looked it up too and posted the article I found.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

No.
Byte is a unspecific and flexible term. Usually the number of bits used to store a character in memory. The early IBM ASCII computers used 7 bit bytes until they switched to EBCDIC 8 bit bytes and other weird ones have used almost any number under 24 bits per byte or some such ridiculous top end.
Technically an 8 bit byte is an octet.

But it is true today that the 8 bit byte is so common that nobody cares.

Yeah, I've always worked with EBCDIC for the most part, but also with ASCII, especially with FTPs. But nowdays you can tell the computer to do the conversions in the FTP process.

 

[nonobaddog]

Yeah, I've always worked with EBCDIC for the most part, but also with ASCII, especially with FTPs. But nowdays you can tell the computer to do the conversions in the FTP process.

Right. And most modern implementations of ASCII are really 8 bit "extended" ASCII.

 

[d.kaufman]

 

[jamil]

Obviously I looked it up too and posted the article I found.

I guess I could find it again if it’s necessary

 

[KLB]

I just did some speed tests. My router has a built in speed test function. I’m getting about 570mbps down. I did a speed test on my personal mackbook connected to wifi and got about 67mbps. Did one on my work mackbook connected to ethernet. Got well over 500. Did one on my phone just now and got 20. I have QoS set up on wifi for phones at low priority. High priority for my personal macbook. **** everyone’s else they get medium priority. We have maybe 20 devices connected at a given time. Phones. Laptops. TV’s. Roku’s, but they have high priority. VOIP has high priority. Gaming consoles have high priority.

It is very likely that people can have lower bandwidth at their device even though they have a high bandwidth connection. It gets spread out when you split it across many devices. Also, like like I said, I have an old router.

How old is your access point? You should be able to get a lot better than that wirelessly.

 

[jamil]

How old is your access point? You should be able to get a lot better than that wirelessly.

Prolly close to 7!or 8 years.

 

[KLB]

Prolly close to 7!or 8 years.

Dude, time to upgrade. That isn't even secure anymore. Get yourself a good mesh system

 

[nonobaddog]

I guess I could find it again if it’s necessary

Not necessary, we could probably find a whole variety of numbers, older numbers would probably be slower and all of them with questionable accuracy.

 

[jamil]

Dude, time to upgrade. That isn't even secure anymore. Get yourself a good mesh system

Yeah. Found the receipt in my wallet. 2015, so yeah. Time for a new router. Probably a new cable modem too. That's newer though but the speed I'm paying for is at the top end of the modem's capability. In my defense I do keep the firmware up to date.



Just kidding about the wallet. I carried around a George Costanza wallet for most of my life but I went minimalist a couple years ago. I'll never go back.

 

[AndreusMaximus]

No.
Byte is a unspecific and flexible term. Usually the number of bits used to store a character in memory. The early IBM ASCII computers used 7 bit bytes until they switched to EBCDIC 8 bit bytes and other weird ones have used almost any number under 24 bits per byte or some such ridiculous top end.
Technically an 8 bit byte is an octet.

But it is true today that the 8 bit byte is so common that nobody cares.

Huh. Yeah, I'd have got that one wrong, too. I always thought a byte was 8 bits, end of story. Learned something new today...

 

[KLB]

Yeah. Found the receipt in my wallet. 2015, so yeah. Time for a new router. Probably a new cable modem too. That's newer though but the speed I'm paying for is at the top end of the modem's capability. In my defense I do keep the firmware up to date.



Just kidding about the wallet. I carried around a George Costanza wallet for most of my life but I went minimalist a couple years ago. I'll never go back.

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Look at the mesh systems. There are a number of good ones out there. I have the Eero 6e, and it has been great.