Yeah, but INGO believes that 120% of the Democratic party are leftist traitors, so...I wouldn't say that compared to Biden, 90% of Democrats are progressives.
Morning Edition was talking about that yesterday. And then there's this:Mayor Pete isn't exactly a progressive darling. He considered a moderate democrat. I honestly wouldn't be opposed to him taking the nomination. His drawbacks, which I don't think should be drawbacks, are his sexuality, and his lack of a history of engagement with people of color.
Why is a 90% even relevant. It isn't a fact.
Let's not start the "what's a fact" debate again.
Why is a 90% even relevant. It isn't a fact.
Why is a 90% even relevant. It isn't a fact.
Given that you can only authoritatively speak for yourself and you are an infinitesimal percentage of all Democrats, why are you entering this discussion from this angle? If 90% is a WAG, and you come up with a different WAG, is one arguably more 'factual' than the other because it pleases you more?
When I checked a few minutes ago (via Pew Research) to see what Democrats were self-identifying as, progressive didn't even make the list. Most Democrats self-identify as liberal. We will save for another day discussion of the cognitive dissonance necessary to desire gov't modulated conformity, Big Brother and thought police; but consider oneself 'liberal'
Yeah, but INGO believes that 120% of the radical social justice wing of the Democratic party are leftist traitors, so...
Given that you can only authoritatively speak for yourself and you are an infinitesimal percentage of all Democrats, why are you entering this discussion from this angle? If 90% is a WAG, and you come up with a different WAG, is one arguably more 'factual' than the other because it pleases you more?
When I checked a few minutes ago (via Pew Research) to see what Democrats were self-identifying as, progressive didn't even make the list. Most Democrats self-identify as liberal. We will save for another day discussion of the cognitive dissonance necessary to desire gov't modulated conformity, Big Brother and thought police; but consider oneself 'liberal'
Trump had no experience. So you should like him, right?I'm in favor of Pete because of his youth and intellect. Not having experience actually works in his favor in my view.
Mainstream democrats have historically considered themselves "liberals". Not to be confused with neo-liberals, which are actually greedy mother****ers in your party. Progressive is a label that is changing. At one point, many liberals would have no problem considering themselves progressives. In today's environment, that doesn't hold true. "progressive" policies such as reparations, paid maternal leave for spouses, medicare for all, etc., have had a significant pushback from the "mainstreamers". How do I know? I don't live in Ohio where all this hatred of your neighbor is rampant. We actually talk to our neighbors and other democrats.
Trump had no experience. So you should like him, right?
I don't know guys.
After a while, I find myself throwing progressives, democrats, liberals and the left into some big cauldron to be mixed up together. I'm sure there must be some difference but that crazy meter is is pointing left of where I think center is so they all get treated the same with me.
Is there some kind of chart that is suppose to show what all the differences are? Although their values seem to change [STRIKE]monthly[/STRIKE] [STRIKE]weekly[/STRIKE] [STRIKE]daily[/STRIKE] hourly.
Mainstream democrats have historically considered themselves "liberals". Not to be confused with neo-liberals, which are actually greedy mother****ers in your party. Progressive is a label that is changing. At one point, many liberals would have no problem considering themselves progressives. In today's environment, that doesn't hold true. "progressive" policies such as reparations, paid maternal leave for spouses, medicare for all, etc., have had a significant pushback from the "mainstreamers". How do I know? I don't live in Ohio where all this hatred of your neighbor is rampant. We actually talk to our neighbors and other democrats.