The CZickness VI

[Birds Away]

This is exactly why I couldn't wait any longer. I'd actually like to purchase a couple more as refinish projects. If more compacts become available through buds, I won't hesitate to buy one. Would like to add a compact....

I prefer going through CDI on GB. I pay a little more but I know exactly what I'm getting.

 

[RustyHornet]

I prefer going through CDI on GB. I pay a little more but I know exactly what I'm getting.

That would be nice, but GB has denied me... I don't feel like jumping through their hoops right now. Sometimes I like surprises.

 

[bjenkins]

Good morning guys, BA why do you think all these older guns have become available?

 

[wtburnette]

Morning Barry

 

[88E30M50]

Morning folks!

That's very much true BA. We've seen that happen over and over in the past. $199 SKSs, $99 Mosins and even cheap 1911s back before I was old enough to buy 1911s. I bought 3 of them a couple of years back and have zero regrets on those. I need to add another one or more while they are available. Two of the ones I bought went to my sons as Christmas presents and the third is being refinished for the third time. I really should have left it painted in FDE and just bought another instead of stripping and refinishing it.

Like you say, the new stuff will always be available, but the surplus stuff just appears briefly in abundance, then disappears forever.

 

[wtburnette]

Morning Tim

 

[Birds Away]

Good morning guys, BA why do you think all these older guns have become available?

I can only speculate. My guess would be that the Israelis are just clearing out their storage of guns they have already replaced.

 

[MC1983]

What do the surplus CZ75 compacts generally go for? I've been carrying my compact lately and might need to add another one to the collection. For the full size guns, are there any compatibility issues with Kadet magazines? It might be worth buying one of those guns to use as a dedicated frame for my Kadet.

 

[RustyHornet]

I can only speculate. My guess would be that the Israelis are just clearing out their storage of guns they have already replaced.

I was under the impression that these beauties came out of a museum. I actually received a note stating mine was right next to Mona Lisa.

 

[Birds Away]

I was under the impression that these beauties came out of a museum. I actually received a note stating mine was right next to Mona Lisa.

You really need to work on your attention to detail. It said Mauna Loa.

 

[bjenkins]

I was under the impression that these beauties came out of a museum. I actually received a note stating mine was right next to Mona Lisa.

We love you Rusty everything will be okay!

 

[RustyHornet]

You really need to work on your attention to detail. It said Mauna Loa.

 

[RustyHornet]

We love you Rusty everything will be okay!

Thanks Barry.

 

[RustyHornet]

What do the surplus CZ75 compacts generally go for? I've been carrying my compact lately and might need to add another one to the collection. For the full size guns, are there any compatibility issues with Kadet magazines? It might be worth buying one of those guns to use as a dedicated frame for my Kadet.

I think there are a couple on GB right now $350-400ish.

 

[88E30M50]

Due to BA's PSA, I just ordered a surplus 75 from Buds. Like Rusty, I'll roll the dice to see what comes up. Hopefully, I get as lucky as Rusty did.

 

[RustyHornet]

Due to BA's PSA, I just ordered a surplus 75 from Buds. Like Rusty, I'll roll the dice to see what comes up. Hopefully, I get as lucky as Rusty did.

You go with the poor version? Are we totally sure these are surplus and not CZs new "battle worn" finish?

 

[Birds Away]

I may end up regretting that post.

 

[RustyHornet]

And the game is on to see who can end up with the ugliest yet most beautiful CZ.

 

[Birds Away]

And the game is on to see who can end up with the ugliest yet most beautiful CZ.

Man, I used to be way ahead in this game.

 

[Hopper]

The only Omegas I have seen are the suppressor ready ones like this:

CZ P-01 Omega, 9mm, Urban Grey, Suppressor Ready, NS, 14+1, Swappable Safety/Decocker - Impact Guns


I think I want an Omega, but it will be hard to wait. Are the triggers all that much better?

Out of the box, I would say YES, the Omega triggers are better than the standard CZ factory triggers. That said, I'm comparing a P-07 with the Omega setup vs. a standard P-01, and this has been a few years back. I haven't shot a newer Omega lately, so I can't say that they are any different now than a few years ago. With an Omega trigger, other than adding the extended CGW firing pin, and maybe a trigger return spring, I think you could live quite happily with an Omega CZ without going full Cajun on the gun. If you get the Omega P-01, I don't think it would be an unreasonable decision to shoot the snot out of it, and then Cajonize it after a part finally fails.

IMO, a factory Omega setup can't hold a candle to a CZ that's been Cajonized. Likewise, according to The Wizard and others on here, an Omega setup is easier/less costly to Cajonize, and the results are just as nice.