The (Current year) General Political/Salma Hayek discussion Thread Part V

[Hatin Since 87]

How did you read the second part of that post, and not the first? And further, did you forget about you comments concerning Obama? I clearly addressed the president "not taking a salary." Is Bill Barr over there with a black marker making redactions?

My comments regarding Obama? I wasn’t even discussing this until I saw you compare their wealth, and go on about which percentage of their wealth they’ve donated, which wasn’t relative to the discussion at all, unless you’re referring to bad dog saying he couldn’t see obummer donating his presidential salary.

Also, at the top of your comment you say “what’s that like 400k”? Then go on to say Obama donated 1M while in office, and doing the math that’s 5 years salary. 400k X 5 = 1M?

 

[Kutnupe14]

My comments regarding Obama? I wasn’t even discussing this until I saw you compare their wealth, and go on about which percentage of their wealth they’ve donated, which wasn’t relative to the discussion at all, unless you’re referring to bad dog saying he couldn’t see obummer donating his presidential salary.

Also, at the top of your comment you say “what’s that like 400k”? Then go on to say Obama donated 1M while in office, and doing the math that’s 5 years salary. 400k X 5 = 1M?

Mea Culpa, on the math; my response was in regards to this post, by Nonobaddog:

And yet that is exactly what he is doing. He does not take the Presidential salary. Could you imagine somebody like obummer doing the same thing? No, I can't either, the thought is hilarious.

Am I incorrect to think that "Obummer," is a reference to Obama, and the second part of the post is making a relative comparison.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Mea Culpa, on the math; my response was in regards to this post, by Nonobaddog:



Am I incorrect to think that "Obummer," is a reference to Obama, and the second part of the post is making a relative comparison.

No, you’re correct. Where you’re incorrect was saying it was my comment about Obama. And again, the only part I took issue with is comparing their net worth to the amount they donated. Why should that matter? If trump donates 4 million and Obama 3.8 million, their success shouldn’t factor into that. It’s just grasping at straws to make trump look bad, when it doesn’t. Why does him being more successful have anything to do with donation amounts? He isn’t taking the salary, yet instead of being happy about that you wanna point to his net worth and make it an issue. Sad honestly, you don’t appreciate or give him credit for anything he does.

 

[BugI02]

For that matter, if you believe in truth, morality, and coherent thought, Trump is obviously not your man, either.

Truth and morality and coherent thought as defined by who? You?

 

[Kutnupe14]

No, you’re correct. Where you’re incorrect was saying it was my comment about Obama. And again, the only part I took issue with is comparing their net worth to the amount they donated. Why should that matter? If trump donates 4 million and Obama 3.8 million, their success shouldn’t factor into that. It’s just grasping at straws to make trump look bad, when it doesn’t. Why does him being more successful have anything to do with donation amounts? He isn’t taking the salary, yet instead of being happy about that you wanna point to his net worth and make it an issue. Sad honestly, you don’t appreciate or give him credit for anything he does.

In this we will disagree. If a pauper give $5 to starving person, I view that more favorably than if a millionaire gave $100 to the same person. It's about sacrifice, and in my opinion, while dollar to dollar the millionaire gave significantly more, his sacrifice is much less, in comparison to the pauper.

 

[BugI02]

The 400k a year salary is peanuts compared to what presidents stand to make with decisions in office and after office. Do you think Trumps net worth will be less after these years of sacrificing the presidential salary? It was a calculated political bit to get elected, knowing full well the wealth in the presidency isn't in the salary. I would be willing to bet the Trump family net worth will have climbed substantially as part of this stint in office.

[But I notice The Perfect One™ didn't elect to decline the money. If it's peanuts is he not revealing himself as the smaller, greedier person?]

Even Obama, with no business knowledge, managed to turn the presidency into a tens of millions of dollars payday.

[This is a positive trait in a president? In what way. i don't believe Trump has set up a pay to play foundation, either]

The money isn't even most important to Trump, it's having his name on TV every day and millions of adoring fans. Think of it this way, if Trump could have best served the country as a no-name bureaucrat working on US trade deals in the shadows and making a huge impact but never getting recognition, do you think he would have ever done it?

You should ask the same question about Obama, or Biden or Warren or ... None of them seem to want to act on a smaller stage. Why do you think that is? Could it be that they're egotistical ***holes that think they know what's best for the country and its people?

 

[Hatin Since 87]

In this we will disagree. If a pauper give $5 to starving person, I view that more favorably than if a millionaire gave $100 to the same person. It's about sacrifice, and in my opinion, while dollar to dollar the millionaire gave significantly more, his sacrifice is much less, in comparison to the pauper.

Maybe so, but does $5 do more to help the starving person than $100 would? I don’t care about ones net worth, I care about the outcome of ones actions. And $100 helps a lot more than $5 does.

 

[BugI02]

I think Bernie Sanders is an honest socialist. I appreciate that he owns it, even if I think it is a terrible ideology.

(All gov't takes money and redistributes it.)

But Capitalism? Et tu, Lexte

 

[printcraft]

In this we will disagree. If a pauper give $5 to starving person, I view that more favorably than if a millionaire gave $100 to the same person. It's about sacrifice, and in my opinion, while dollar to dollar the millionaire gave significantly more, his sacrifice is much less, in comparison to the pauper.

Thinking like that leads nowhere good.

 

[BugI02]

It's now defamation to say you didn't commit a crime.

E. Jean Carroll filed a defamation lawsuit against Donald Trump for the president’s comments denying the journalist’s claims that he raped her in a department store in the 1990s

Meh. Go for the case with the lowest standards of proof in the least Trump-friendly court you can find. Checks all the boxes

 

[BugI02]

Oh, I'm clear. Jludo was tripped up on the specifics of his wording. Common sense tells me, that he was implying that Trump always considers his net worth when making decisions, and would, when all things are considered, certainly put himself in the "red" for the benefit of others. He may make certain sacrifices, but those sacrifices will always ensure that he remains making a profit, overall.

Quoted for posterity. Freudian slip?

 

[KG1]

I thought the Trump brand overall has taken a hit since he took office?

 

[Kutnupe14]

Quoted for posterity. Freudian slip?

I know, I know, rarely do I make mistakes. You may quote this one for posterity, as it was a mistake. "Wouldn't" was the word that should be used.

 

[Kutnupe14]

I thought the Trump brand overall has taken a hit since he took office?

His brand has taken a hit, but due to those wanting to cultivate influence, I doubt his nor his family's pocketbook has taken a hit. After he leaves office, and theres nothing more to be gained from his position, I think we'll see his brand fall on financial hard time.... or maybe not. I can totally see him starting a television station to replace Fox.

 

[T.Lex]

His brand has taken a hit, but due to those wanting to cultivate influence, I doubt his nor his family's pocketbook has taken a hit. After he leaves office, and theres nothing more to be gained from his position, I think we'll see his brand fall on financial hard time.... or maybe not. I can totally see him starting a television station to replace Fox.

I wouldn't be surprised if he started one when he was still in office.

 

[Ingomike]

His brand has taken a hit, but due to those wanting to cultivate influence, I doubt his nor his family's pocketbook has taken a hit. After he leaves office, and theres nothing more to be gained from his position, I think we'll see his brand fall on financial hard time.... or maybe not. I can totally see him starting a television station to replace Fox.

Facinating idea...

 

[nonobaddog]

In this we will disagree. If a pauper give $5 to starving person, I view that more favorably than if a millionaire gave $100 to the same person. It's about sacrifice, and in my opinion, while dollar to dollar the millionaire gave significantly more, his sacrifice is much less, in comparison to the pauper.

What good does the sacrifice do? It is the donation/contribution/gift that does the good.
Ask any charity which will do the most good, $5 or $100.

 

[KG1]

His brand has taken a hit, but due to those wanting to cultivate influence, I doubt his nor his family's pocketbook has taken a hit. After he leaves office, and theres nothing more to be gained from his position, I think we'll see his brand fall on financial hard time.... or maybe not. I can totally see him starting a television station to replace Fox.

Are you insinuating that the Trump family is taking a play out of the Clinton playbook and benefiting financially from “those wanting to cultivate influence”?

 

[BugI02]

What good does the sacrifice do? It is the donation/contribution/gift that does the good.
Ask any charity which will do the most good, $5 or $100.

Which would you rather defend during judgement?

"Lord, I gave enough to get the maximum tax deduction"

or

"Lord, I gave all that I could afford"

 

[nonobaddog]

Which would you rather defend during judgement?

"Lord, I gave enough to get the maximum tax deduction"

or

"Lord, I gave all that I could afford"

I don't consider the Lord to be the beancounter-in-chief.