The [Current Year] General Political/Salma Hayek discussion thread, part 4!!!

[jamil]

I'd say keep it realistic. Even without the media reporting things that aren't true, and helping to present Trump as this bumbling idiot bully, Trump does enough to help sell that to a lot of people regardless. So I wouldn't say it's TDS to point that out. He would have to pay attention to his words to push back the way I suggested without coming off as a bully. If that was intended I think that pretty much represents reality.

 

[Kutnupe14]

obama targeting the opposition in the country with the weight of the IRS for one... bull**** if you say he didn't promote that...

The only difference now is the dems have the (backbone-politics) to push forward.
The weak ass republicans at the time (paul ryan) set on their hands and let obama skate on all kinds of nonsense.
There was plenty of smoke there just not the will for obvious politically correct reasons.

Obama? Make that stick. If you have Obama personally directing his DoJ or IRS to investigate political opponents, then he's equally as guilty. I'm not even say that Obama didn't do it, but he was smart enough to not have anything lead back to him. Conversely, we have Trump personally involving himself. That's the difference.

 

[nonobaddog]

I would say it depends more upon your level of maturity.

My ears are fine, and I am far from having TDS(on either end).

It isn't a matter of hearing ability at all. Good to hear your ears are fine though. It is a matter of who the ears belong to. The MSM with their high level TDS will hear any negative thing they can imagine, such as sounding like a bully for instance. Trump fans will hear a desire to get stuff done and a strength of conviction.

 

[Kutnupe14]

How many heads would explode if trump was overheard telling a Russian “wait until after the election I’ll have more flexibility”.

Im betting the same people calling trump corrupt saw no harm in Obama saying that, or sending money to a terrorist state.

This is is why I stay out of political threads. The double standard is amazing

In this we agree. Just in the opposite.

 

[Kutnupe14]

I would say it depends more upon your level of maturity.

My ears are fine, and I am far from having TDS(on either end).

You don't toe the line, and issue any sort of criticism toward Trump, then you have TDS.

 

[jamil]

Obama? Make that stick. If you have Obama personally directing his DoJ or IRS to investigate political opponents, then he's equally as guilty. I'm not even say that Obama didn't do it, but he was smart enough to not have anything lead back to him. Conversely, we have Trump personally involving himself. That's the difference.

Well, yes. Hard drives were mysteriously destroyed. Obama was quite good at keeping his herd-o-ideologues in line.

And he had his wing-man protecting him. And he had a congress to scared of his race to challenge him as fiercely as democrats are challenging Trump now. There's zero consequence in the media for reporting anything negative about Trump that's not true. That just didn't fly so well in the Obama regime.

 

[jamil]

In this we agree. Just in the opposite.

A double standard is commutative. It should go both ways, not just the opposite. If it goes one way, that means you're a partisan.

 

[bwframe]

 

[KG1]

Obama? Make that stick. If you have Obama personally directing his DoJ or IRS to investigate political opponents, then he's equally as guilty. I'm not even say that Obama didn't do it, but he was smart enough to not have anything lead back to him. Conversely, we have Trump personally involving himself. That's the difference.

It's too bad Trump did'nt have someone like Susan Rice to cover his tracks like Obama when she sent an unusual email to herself purporting to document a conversation between then President Obama and acting FBI Director Comey regarding the Trump/Russia investigation where she made it a point to highlight that Obama repeatedly emphasized that he wanted every aspect of the issue "handled by the book" just so she could establish culpable deniability and get it into the public domain.

I guess it's ok with you if Obama were to have dirty hands just aslong as he's smart enough to not have anything lead back to him.

 

[printcraft]

Obama? Make that stick. If you have Obama personally directing his DoJ or IRS to investigate political opponents, then he's equally as guilty. I'm not even say that Obama didn't do it, but he was smart enough to not have anything lead back to him. Conversely, we have Trump personally involving himself. That's the difference.

obama killed osama bin laden.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Well, yes. Hard drives were mysteriously destroyed. Obama was quite good at keeping his herd-o-ideologues in line.

And he had his wing-man protecting him. And he had a congress to scared of his race to challenge him as fiercely as democrats are challenging Trump now. There's zero consequence in the media for reporting anything negative about Trump that's not true. That just didn't fly so well in the Obama regime.

Ok and? I said make it stick, not come up with whatever you think happened.

 

[nonobaddog]

Ok and? I said make it stick, not come up with whatever you think happened.

First there needs to be a two year, $32 Million dollar, extremely biased, antagonistic investigation

 

[Hatin Since 87]

obama killed osama bin laden.

No, the seals killed bin laden. Obama killed that America chick.

 

[KG1]

Ok and? I said make it stick, not come up with whatever you think happened.

Are implied interpretations allowed?

 

[Alpo]

Jeez, man. That's just like banning "retarded". Grow a thick skin. I'm sure you're smart enough to know when someone's being hyperbolic. Saying it's a "coup" isn't any worse than saying Trump committed treason. We could all get upset at the other for using the wrong words, or, we can recognize that these people are ****ing hysterical and can't use the right words because the right words just don't paint the other with sufficient evil. So do you want to participate or just say **** it, I ain't playing that game anymore.

Spread the word to say **** you, I am not living in the world you propose. (of course "you" is rhetorical)

Did you ever see a 12 year old kid who, when taken to a restaurant, has no idea how to use a knife and fork?.....not because he has a mental/physical impairment or because mommy always cut up his food for him. Nope. It's because since the time he was old enough to get off the bottle, he's been eating out of fast food containers. McDonalds, Taco Bell, KFC.

It seems as if you are doing that with language as well. Latest: LARPing. Last month: Woke.

You've decided that the English language is a Happy Meal. Well, it isn't. You either stand against grammar entropy or you don't. TLex is correct.

And all this parsing that Bug is doing is ridiculous. Just because Trump feels threatened, he doesn't have permission to label getting called on coloring outside the lines "a coup". He who sows chaos to weaken the ground upon which his opponent treads must step carefully. Trump is not a careful man.

 

[BugI02]

Ok and? I said make it stick, not come up with whatever you think happened.

Does INGO have a color for unintentional irony/self parody?

 

[nonobaddog]

The most serious threat to American Freedoms and our way of life developed over a couple hundred years is socialism.

The socialism crowd has infiltrated the mainstream media to the point where it is mostly fake news and propaganda.
They have infiltrated the education system at every level from kindergarten to post grad.
They have infiltrated the democrat political party so they now openly promote socialism.
They have infiltrated the House of Representatives to the point where they now openly defy the Constitution of the United States.
They have infiltrated the Judicial System especially the Ninth Circuit to the point where they frequently make obvious unconstitutional decisions.

The things in their way right now are mainly President Trump - along with a pretty weak Senate and a questionable Supreme Court.

And yet some people are concentrating on Trumps mannerisms. Seriously?

Do you really want to be part of the problem or do you want to fight this insidious threat?

 

[BugI02]

Did you ever see a 12 year old kid who, when taken to a restaurant, has no idea how to use a knife and fork?.....not because he has a mental/physical impairment or because mommy always cut up his food for him. Nope. It's because since the time he was old enough to get off the bottle, he's been eating out of fast food containers. McDonalds, Taco Bell, KFC.

It seems as if you are doing that with language as well. Latest: LARPing. Last month: Woke.

You've decided that the English language is a Happy Meal. Well, it isn't. You either stand against grammar entropy or you don't. TLex is correct.

And all this parsing that Bug is doing is ridiculous. Just because Trump feels threatened, he doesn't have permission to label getting called on coloring outside the lines "a coup". He who sows chaos to weaken the ground upon which his opponent treads must step carefully. Trump is not a careful man.

Oh, Alpo! One can only assume that if someone brings up how fast their laptop processor is clocked you envision the repitition rate at which they strike it, possibly with a mechanical timepiece?

 

[BugI02]

The most serious threat to American Freedoms and our way of life developed over a couple hundred years is socialism.

The socialism crowd has infiltrated the mainstream media to the point where it is mostly fake news and propaganda.
They have infiltrated the education system at every level from kindergarten to post grad.
They have infiltrated the democrat political party so they now openly promote socialism.
They have infiltrated the House of Representatives to the point where they now openly defy the Constitution of the United States.
They have infiltrated the Judicial System especially the Ninth Circuit to the point where they frequently make obvious unconstitutional decisions.

The things in their way right now are mainly President Trump - along with a pretty weak Senate and a questionable Supreme Court.

And yet some people are concentrating on Trumps mannerisms. Seriously?

Do you really want to be part of the problem or do you want to fight this insidious threat?

I believe it is worse than you think. All the free **** is Chavez redux, designed to buy enough votes to achieve power; only our folks who believe themselves poor and put upon are the envy of most of the rest of the world

 

[Alpo]

Oh, Alpo! One can only assume that if someone brings up how fast their laptop processor is clocked you envision the repitition rate at which they strike it, possibly with a mechanical timepiece?

I wouldn't have expected a different response from you, Bug. Bravo.

As to the insidious nature of socialism, it seems that we've given the present generation worldwide access to a communication system and information databases. Couple that with immaturity, increasing demands for immediate gratification and a reduction in parental supervision while at the same time believing little Johnny is a special snowflake.....

it isn't socialism, dude. It's the decline of western civilization.