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    Baltimore police lieutenant Brian Rice found not guilty of involuntary manslaughter in Freddie Gray death

    Still waiting to hear on a misconduct-in-office charge.

    Edit: Acquitted on all charges

    Terrible showing for State's Attorney Mosby, who is accused of rushing to charge police officers without evidence. Mosby is 0-3 of convictions, with an additional mistrial in the first prosecution of Officer Porter.

    Mosby faces defamation and malicious prosecution civil suits from several of the officers she charged in the death of Gray
     

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    Baltimore police lieutenant Brian Rice found not guilty of involuntary manslaughter in Freddie Gray death

    Still waiting to hear on a misconduct-in-office charge.

    Edit: Acquitted on all charges

    Terrible showing for State's Attorney Mosby, who is accused of rushing to charge police officers without evidence. Mosby is 0-3 of convictions, with an additional mistrial in the first prosecution of Officer Porter.

    Mosby faces defamation and malicious prosecution civil suits from several of the officers she charged in the death of Gray

    So Mosby is clearly qualified to be US Attorney General under the current administration.
     

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    ...and these acquitals have been lightly reported. I mean, they've been reported in the news, but never emphasized, discussed, made a subject of "analysts", etc....that I've seen.

    The media is very good at painting a picture of police misconduct before the facts are in and not at all keen on discussing their exoneration. this is what happens when agenda drives reporting instead of events and facts.
     

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    ...and these acquitals have been lightly reported. I mean, they've been reported in the news, but never emphasized, discussed, made a subject of "analysts", etc....that I've seen.

    The media is very good at painting a picture of police misconduct before the facts are in and not at all keen on discussing their exoneration. this is what happens when agenda drives reporting instead of events and facts.

    I find it odd... I figured the media would push these acquittals pretty hard, with the "they got away with it" angle... maybe stoke some protest fires with it.
     

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    ...and these acquitals have been lightly reported. I mean, they've been reported in the news, but never emphasized, discussed, made a subject of "analysts", etc....that I've seen.

    The media is very good at painting a picture of police misconduct before the facts are in and not at all keen on discussing their exoneration. this is what happens when agenda drives reporting instead of events and facts.

    Allegations, speculation, and torturing the few facts available until they fit the narrative are fun. Facts and admitting you were wrong are not.
     

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    The media is very good at painting a picture of police misconduct before the facts are in and not at all keen on discussing their exoneration. this is what happens when agenda drives reporting instead of events and facts.

    Mistakes go on page one. Corrections? Page nine, below the fold.;)
     

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    ...and these acquitals have been lightly reported. I mean, they've been reported in the news, but never emphasized, discussed, made a subject of "analysts", etc....that I've seen.

    The media is very good at painting a picture of police misconduct before the facts are in and not at all keen on discussing their exoneration. this is what happens when agenda drives reporting instead of events and facts.

    This has been the case since the 1964 Presidential campaign. It may have started before then, but that was when the networks began obviously slanting the reporting to favor Democrats/Liberals. It has gone on so long that most people now consider it normal and anything approaching unbiased reporting is labeled "Extreme Right-Wing Propaganda."
     

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    ...and these acquitals have been lightly reported. I mean, they've been reported in the news, but never emphasized, discussed, made a subject of "analysts", etc....that I've seen.

    The media is very good at painting a picture of police misconduct before the facts are in and not at all keen on discussing their exoneration. this is what happens when agenda drives reporting instead of events and facts.

    Those who give in to the mob always forget that the mob will eventually turn on them.

    I am overjoyed at the news of Lt. Rice's acquittal. He was a sacrificial lamb to a political monster. These cops all got a bum rap, I hope that they are compensated for it.
     

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    I believe that the biggest problem the media has with the cop killers is that they mess up the narrative and cause sympathy for the police.

    ...that probably goes for the President and many liberals, as well.
     
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    Finally a call for the 10 run rule:
    Legal analysts ripped Baltimore prosecutors Monday over their handling of the Freddie Gray case, saying the prosecution should drop all charges against the three remaining police officers or risk more embarrassment in the courtroom.

    John Banzhaf, law professor, seeks disbarment of Baltimore prosecutors in Freddie Gray cases - Washington Times

    What’s more, John Banzhaf, an activist law professor at George Washington University, said he would file a complaint Tuesday with the Maryland Attorney Grievance Commission calling for the disbarment of the lead prosecutors in the trials of the six police officers accused of wrongdoing in the 2015 arrest and death of the 25-year-old black man.
     

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    State drops all charges against Baltimore Officer Garrett Miller in arrest and death of Freddie Gray

    https://twitter.com/saliqaWBAL/status/758294894498701312

    I wonder if perhaps not only the lack of conviction but the lack of proof that a criminal act occurred, apparent misconduct by the prosecutor to withhold exculpatory evidence, and the political advantage to the prosecutions losing steam might have influence that a bit?

    According to presiding Judge Barry Williams, prosecutors in the Goodson trial withheld critical information from the defense that could have helped their case. Sharing such "exculpatory" information is a core legal obligation in prosecutions and goes to fundamental fairness rights.
    "I'm not saying you did anything nefarious. I'm saying you don't understand what 'exculpatory' means," Williams told prosecutors upon discovering the violations.

    Political theater from the beginning.
     

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    "I'm not saying you did anything nefarious. I'm saying you don't understand what 'exculpatory' means," Williams told prosecutors upon discovering the violations.

    Is this like what happened with Hiliary?

    Yes, you committed a crime, but you weren't doing it on purpose; you were just careless or, in this case, stupid?

    "Oh, gee, officer, I didn't mean to shoot anybody. I just wanted to see if my pistol's safety was on so I fired it out the car window 8 times. I guess I was just careless and misguided. I thought bullets only hit people if you meant for them to hit someone."
     

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    "I'm not saying you did anything nefarious. I'm saying you don't understand what 'exculpatory' means," Williams told prosecutors upon discovering the violations.

    Is this like what happened with Hiliary?

    Yes, you committed a crime, but you weren't doing it on purpose; you were just careless or, in this case, stupid?

    "Oh, gee, officer, I didn't mean to shoot anybody. I just wanted to see if my pistol's safety was on so I fired it out the car window 8 times. I guess I was just careless and misguided. I thought bullets only hit people if you meant for them to hit someone."

    I'll let the lawyers weigh in, as I don't know if it's an actual crime. I'm out of my depth with what's a crime, what's a procedural violation, etc.
     

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    If ignorance of the law is no excuse (including ignorance of legal terms), then it should apply to lawyers if it applies to anyone.
     

    Alamo

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    "I'm not saying you did anything nefarious. I'm saying you don't understand what 'exculpatory' means," Williams told prosecutors upon discovering the violations.

    For a prosecutor to not understand "exculpatory" would seem to be incompetence to a degree that is criminal, no? As noted above in one of the quotes, this is a pretty basic principle, it's not like the prosecutor was late to court because she overslept.
     

    BehindBlueI's

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    If ignorance of the law is no excuse (including ignorance of legal terms), then it should apply to lawyers if it applies to anyone.

    To clarify, I'm not saying it's either right or ok. It's quite the opposite. I just don't know if it's a crime, a procedural violation that could result in mistrial, ethics violation that the bar takes care of, grounds to be sued, or some combination of them.
     
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