The 2017 General Salma Hayek discussion thread...Part 3!!!

[bwframe]

Why do you think you’re in the majority?

There's no thinking about it. Ask indiucky, we know.

 

[jamil]

There's no thinking about it. Ask indiucky, we know.

Faith, then? The true believers are maybe 35% nationwide, and that’s being generous. Trump won because he ran against the worst candidate possibly ever. So that 35% plus the people willing to vote for the second worst candidate just to avoid the worst was enough. This time. You can’t count on the dems to run a loser as bad as Hillary next time.

 

[bwframe]

Faith, then? The true believers are maybe 35% nationwide, and that’s being generous. Trump won because he ran against the worst candidate possibly ever. So that 35% plus the people willing to vote for the second worst candidate just to avoid the worst was enough. This time. You can’t count on the dems to run a loser as bad as Hillary next time.

Why do you think you’re in the majority?

 

[jamil]

Why do you think you’re in the majority?

Oh heavens no. There isn’t a majority. There are just people who for various reasons chose one or the other or neither candidate last November. You can’t expect they’ll all make the same choioin 2020.

There’s simply no reason to believe that a majority of people think the way you do about Trump other than faith.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

Just to be clear, Ambassador Stevens requested increased security multiple times in his short, 4 month career as ambassador to Libya (May 22, 2012 to September 11, 2012). His predecessor did the same as well as protested the CUTS in security in Tripoli and Benghazi made under Clinton's watch. Ditto the security chief on the ground in Libya.

PolitiFact: State Department under Hillary Clinton refused security requests for Benghazi, Paul Ryan says:
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin...department-under-hillary-clinton-refused-sec/

After Obama helped the local "militias" topple Qhaddafi, Libya was a "success story", don't you know? No more dangerous than the aforementioned Tahiti.

 

[bwframe]

There’s simply no reason to believe that a majority of people think the way you do about Trump other than faith.

Yeah, that's what you all said last year too.

 

[printcraft]

Just to be clear, Ambassador Stevens requested increased security multiple times in his short, 4 month career as ambassador to Libya (May 22, 2012 to September 11, 2012). His predecessor did the same as well as protested the CUTS in security in Tripoli and Benghazi made under Clinton's watch. Ditto the security chief on the ground in Libya.

PolitiFact: State Department under Hillary Clinton refused security requests for Benghazi, Paul Ryan says:
State Department under Hillary Clinton refused security requests for Benghazi, Paul Ryan says | PolitiFact Wisconsin

After Obama helped the local "militias" topple Qhaddafi, Libya was a "success story", don't you know? No more dangerous than the aforementioned Tahiti.

Alpo still says his skirt was too short. He was just asking for it. It's all his own fault.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

Judge Moore in the Alabama Senate Race

Editorial: Roy Moore Clarifies the Question | The Weekly Standard

(if you get pay-walled on the link, right click and open in an incognito window)

Asked by Fox News host Sean Hannity if he dated teenaged girls when Moore was in his 30s, the former prosecutor and judge replied: “Not generally, no.”

Which translates as, specifically, yes, on occasion.

Now there is highly credible evidence of his penchant for underaged girls. If he has any shame left, Moore will withdraw his candidacy and, if he is elected, refuse to serve. That seems unlikely to happen.

Yes, it is credible... yes, he should step aside... nope, he won't, there have been too many examples of those that didn't and just carried on until the smoke cleared.

 

[Alpo]

Alpo still says his skirt was too short. He was just asking for it. It's all his own fault.

A hairy naked man fantasizing about men in skirts.

ewwwwwwww

 

[printcraft]

A hairy naked man fantasizing about men in skirts.

ewwwwwwww

Thanks for noticing!




Also, that's not a denial......

 

[Alpo]

Just to be clear, Ambassador Stevens requested increased security multiple times in his short, 4 month career as ambassador to Libya (May 22, 2012 to September 11, 2012). His predecessor did the same as well as protested the CUTS in security in Tripoli and Benghazi made under Clinton's watch. Ditto the security chief on the ground in Libya.

PolitiFact: State Department under Hillary Clinton refused security requests for Benghazi, Paul Ryan says:
State Department under Hillary Clinton refused security requests for Benghazi, Paul Ryan says | PolitiFact Wisconsin

After Obama helped the local "militias" topple Qhaddafi, Libya was a "success story", don't you know? No more dangerous than the aforementioned Tahiti.

Ambassadors aren't Navy Seals or Force Recon. They have broad latitude in setting their own agenda and objectives within a country. If Stevens felt unsafe going into Benghazi, he could have (and, in hindsight, should have) said: "No. I'm not going without stepped up security."

He made a rookie error (even though he would be considered a career field officer with experience in the Middle East) and paid the ultimate price. It's really a shame.

 

[Birds Away]

Sorry my BS alarm is clanging so loud I can't hear myself think.

 

[printcraft]

Ambassadors aren't Navy Seals or Force Recon. They have broad latitude in setting their own agenda and objectives within a country. If Stevens felt unsafe going into Benghazi, he could have (and, in hindsight, should have) said: "No. I'm not going without stepped up security."

He made a rookie error (even though he would be considered a career field officer with experience in the Middle East) and paid the ultimate price. It's really a shame.

Just to be clear, Ambassador Stevens requested increased security multiple times in his short, 4 month career as ambassador to Libya (May 22, 2012 to September 11, 2012). His predecessor did the same as well as protested the CUTS in security in Tripoli and Benghazi made under Clinton's watch. Ditto the security chief on the ground in Libya.

Who again is responsible for the security of our Ambassadors? The Ambassadors CAN'T act on their own in this regard.
The state department IS responsible for care and security of their agents.
This was several different EMPLOYEES of the state department ASKING for resources, again SOMEBODY at state told them no, not only no but even less.
Who was in charge of the state department at that time? Where does the buck stop?
Clearly you are blaming an employee for bad management.
Do you blame the kid working the counter when the roast beef is out at an Arby's or do you blame the store manager for not ordering enough roast beef?

 

[Kutnupe14]

Ambassadors aren't Navy Seals or Force Recon. They have broad latitude in setting their own agenda and objectives within a country. If Stevens felt unsafe going into Benghazi, he could have (and, in hindsight, should have) said: "No. I'm not going without stepped up security."

He made a rookie error (even though he would be considered a career field officer with experience in the Middle East) and paid the ultimate price. It's really a shame.

Oh no Alpo, Clinton sent Stevens there because she wanted him dead. She even made the call to the militias to tell them when to attack. She should certainly be in jail.... because anytime American officials or soldiers get killed, someone needs to be locked up!

 

[jamil]

Yeah, that's what you all said last year too.

Did Trump win because EVERY Trump voter is lockstep with you? Or did Trump voters have more diverse reasons to vote for him?

Hillary won’t be on the ballot. So. Who will the not Hillary voters vote for next time? They’re not all conservatives or trumpers.

 

[printcraft]

Oh no Alpo, Clinton sent Stevens there because she wanted him dead. She even made the call to the militias to tell them when to attack. She should certainly be in jail.... because anytime American officials or soldiers get killed, someone needs to be locked up!

Please try to follow along.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Please try to follow along.

 

[Birds Away]

I was recently scolded for an extra snarky post. Using passive/aggressiveness to insult others in the conversation must not qualify as snark.

 

[Alpo]

Nothing wrong with snark. Especially when the snarkee believes his sarcastic humor makes him a top comedian and wry political satirist.

Go for it!

 

[Birds Away]

Nothing wrong with snark. Especially when the snarkee believes his sarcastic humor makes him a top comedian and wry political satirist.

Go for it!

No, no, I was publically chastised for snark. So I know that we must try to maintain the high road.