The 2017 General Salma Hayek discussion thread...Part 3!!!

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    Fargo

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    In a state of acute Pork-i-docis
    I've never been a Hillary fan, but what YOUR side did to discredit her on Benghazi is almost pornographic.
    Mmmmmmmm, most of that was inflicted by her own side via the open and stupid lies about YouTube videos. The president and Susan Rice had already painted her squarely into a liars corner before anything was done to discredit her. I have relatively little doubt that she was at least on board with, if not behind, the lying as well.
     

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    Oh there were a substantial number of outright lies told by the administration after the battle at Benghazi. I'm solely talking about the event itself.
     

    jamil

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    Mmmmmmmm, most of that was inflicted by her own side via the open and stupid lies about YouTube videos. The president and Susan Rice had already painted her squarely into a liars corner before anything was done to discredit her. I have relatively little doubt that she was at least on board with, if not behind, the lying as well.

    It's my understanding that the idea of ousting Qaddafi was her brain fart. I'd speculate that it was more about resume building than about anything else. I remember a NY Times article a while back reported that Obama was very reluctant to do anything in Libya, but Arab Spring Hillary convinced him to back the opposition, whenc ended up being essentially ISIS, and let them do the dirty work.

    Congress not being able to find evidence of specific wrongdoing is not vindication of moral responsibility, nor the incompetence and negligence that allowed the conditions that led to the attack. Why did the state department ignore the warnings? It probably had something to do with what the CIA was doing there that they didn't want anyone to know about. Remember the news reports of missing guns? It seems likely the CIA was there to try to recover them.
     

    jamil

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    Oh there were a substantial number of outright lies told by the administration after the battle at Benghazi. I'm solely talking about the event itself.

    The event itself. Hmmm. There's a reason the conditions existed. That reason is incompetent leadership. Hillary. And Obama for listening to her. Libya was one case where it'd have been better for Obama to revert to doing the usual pissing down his leg.
     

    Alpo

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    The event itself. Hmmm. There's a reason the conditions existed. That reason is incompetent leadership. Hillary. And Obama for listening to her. Libya was one case where it'd have been better for Obama to revert to doing the usual pissing down his leg.

    If you wish to hold an individual up for incompetent leadership, there is enough to go around the Pentagon, State Dept and our intelligence services. Need anyone jog your memory of 9-11?

    On the other hand, if you are looking at criminal liability, Clinton is not guilty after many investigations into Benghazi. If that doesn't satisy your sense of moral outrage...well, you're welcome to it.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    And we're still waiting for charges supporting the reason he was made a special prosecutor in the first place...

    Because Comey was fired, Sessions recused himself, and his Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein chose Mueller due to his impeccable reputation.
     

    printcraft

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    If you wish to hold an individual up for incompetent leadership, there is enough to go around the Pentagon, State Dept and our intelligence services. Need anyone jog your memory of 9-11?

    On the other hand, if you are looking at criminal liability, Clinton is not guilty after many investigations into Benghazi. If that doesn't satisy your sense of moral outrage...well, you're welcome to it.

    Speaking of memory jogging.... Bill Clinton had multiple opportunities to kill osama bin laden and he stopped the action.
     

    Alpo

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    Speaking of memory jogging.... Bill Clinton had multiple opportunities to kill osama bin laden and he stopped the action.

    This reminds me of a Three Stooges bit (or maybe it was Abbott & Costello) re: drawing a line in the sand. Every time the guy stepped over the line, the fat guy would step back and draw another line to be crossed.

    Fox News made a billion dollars on Benghazi...and there is nothing there (Master of the House libretto from Les Miserables). Now you'd like to go back to cigars. And then what?....Carter and Iran?

    I understand your hatred of the democratic party. Perhaps Churchmouse could have them design a special emoticon so you could express it with just one click.
     

    Vigilant

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    Too much yapping.

    Any love for Jessica Alba
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    yOnly the well protected kinda love, she gots things penicillins won’t cure!
     
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