The 2017 General Political discussion thread, Part 2!

[JettaKnight]

A significant part of the problem seems to be your willingness to believe anything the liberal media trots out in front of you.

This so very much smacks of, "you're biased, but I'm not." ...which is a fallacy.

 

[Dddrees]

This so very much smacks of, "you're biased, but I'm not." ...which is a fallacy.

No, no, please tell me that can't possibly be true. LOL

 

[Dddrees]

A significant part of the problem seems to be your willingness to believe anything the liberal media trots out in front of you.

I'm almost wondering if we shouldn't start trotting out all of the lies the President and his Administration have told and compare those to any of the mistakes CNN has made in their reporting. But first you have to ask yourself that given how Trump is do you really want to go there?

 

[Kutnupe14]

I'm almost wondering if we shouldn't start trotting out all of the lies the President and his Administration have told and compare those to any of the mistakes CNN has made in their reporting. But first you have to ask yourself that given how Trump is do you really want to go there?

Fair point. Trump Lies > Fake News

 

[ATM]

I'm almost wondering if we shouldn't start trotting out all of the lies the President and his Administration have told and compare those to any of the mistakes CNN has made in their reporting. But first you have to ask yourself that given how Trump is do you really want to go there?

Why would anyone expect truth from government or corporate media in this day and age? That's funny.

 

[Dddrees]

Fair point. Trump Lies > Fake News

At least there are some here that recognize that. However it amazes me how many refuse to see that.

 

[Dddrees]

Why would anyone expect truth from government or corporate media in this day and age? That's funny.

Often you get what your willing to accept. Plain and simple you don't demand it, you don't ask for it, then you can't possibly get it.

 

[printcraft]

It's like magic I tell ya.

 

[ATM]

Often you get what your willing to accept. Plain and simple you don't demand it, you don't ask for it, then you can't possibly get it.

I demand dank memes. Government/media spin is pointless and tired.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

Have you not seen the transcript of the president's phone call with the Mexican president. It's pretty clear that the president doesn't expect Mexico to pay for the wall, unless "come out in a wash" has a different meaning than I'm used to seeing. I think it's time to drop this wall business and move on.

I had not read the transcript, but just did, from the beginning to the point of "come out in a wash", then skimmed and read from there. I think it's very clear that the President meant that border tarriffs (10-15%) and trade equalization would "pay for the wall." If we could achieve something like a fair trade agreement, that money would "come out in the wash". Did you read it differently?

As an aside, though I think the transcript should never have been leaked, it shows a remarkable degree of diplomacy, many points of agreement, and both expressed mutual admiration for each other and each other's countries. And, each recognized the political position the other faces.

ETA: If you just follow the WaPo "jumps" to their highlighted parts of the conversation, it reads very differently than if you read from the beginning, in the context of the flow of the conversation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...ia-mexico-transcripts/?utm_term=.f2cd12fe5e05

Note that Pina Nieto asks that they look for a "creative solution" to the wall funding issue... similar to "it coming out in the wash", no?

 

[Dddrees]

Senate Blocks Trump from making recess appointments.

Senate blocks Trump from making recess appointments over break | TheHill

 

[ghitch75]

Senate Blocks Trump from making recess appointments.

Senate blocks Trump from making recess appointments over break | TheHill

what else is new......they will block or try to block everything he does for the next 7 years.....

 

[Birds Away]

This so very much smacks of, "you're biased, but I'm not." ...which is a fallacy.

No, I don't believe much of what the other media outlets put out either.

 

[Birds Away]

Fair point. Trump Lies > Fake News

It's actually a pretty close race.

 

[Dddrees]

what else is new......they will block or try to block everything he does for the next 7 years.....

Agreed, anything that makes the looney, crazy, dangerous, and stupid things he does irrelevant until he's impeached I'm for as well.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

what else is new......they will block or try to block everything he does for the next 7 years.....

It's nothing new, in fact it's SOP... from the article:

The Senate has used the brief sessions to block recess appointments for decades, including last year to keep President Barack Obama from being able to fill a vacant Supreme Court seat.

 

[Birds Away]

It's nothing new, in fact it's SOP... from the article:

You're using facts and they seem to have no place in this discussion.

 

[Dddrees]

You're using facts and they seem to have no place in this discussion.

Sure it does. But here's to them blocking more of Trump, especially when he wanders off the range.

 

[Dddrees]

Starr: We don't want special prosecutors going on fishing expeditions. LOL

Ken Starr: We don't want a fishing expedition - CNN Video

 

[Kutnupe14]

what else is new......they will block or try to block everything he does for the next 7 years.....

If you're speaking of the Senate as a body, there's no "try" about it.