The 2017 General Political discussion thread, Part 2!

[HubertGummer]

Sure it does. But here's to them blocking more of Trump, especially when he wanders off the range.

Weren't the Republicans accused of being the party of obstructionists by the Democrats during Obamas Term?

I'm going to guess that the democrats don't have a problem with obstructionism any longer.

 

[printcraft]

Sure it does. But here's to them blocking more of Trump, especially when he wanders off the plantation.

FTFY

 

[ghitch75]

for DD.....fair and balanced.....

Amazon causes stink with Trump-tweet toilet paper | Fox News

 

[Kutnupe14]

for DD.....fair and balanced.....

Amazon causes stink with Trump-tweet toilet paper | Fox News

https://www.amazon.com/BigMouth-Inc-Funny-Toilet-Paper/dp/B003EN9S58

I'm hoping you can illustrate that fairness and balance, and direct me to the Obama toilet paper Fox article.

 

[ghitch75]

https://www.amazon.com/BigMouth-Inc-Funny-Toilet-Paper/dp/B003EN9S58

I'm hoping you can illustrate that fairness and balance, and direct me to the Obama toilet paper Fox article.

that is my point if they where so far right it wouldn't have been printed......

 

[Kutnupe14]

that is my point if they where so far right it wouldn't have been printed......

I don't think you helping your point at all.

 

[jamil]

I'm almost wondering if we shouldn't start trotting out all of the lies the President and his Administration have told and compare those to any of the mistakes CNN has made in their reporting. But first you have to ask yourself that given how Trump is do you really want to go there?

Fair point. Trump Lies > Fake News

I don't think Trump Lies > Fake News, and here's why. There are two kinds of lies Trump can tell us. Those which we can figure out are lies by doing our own fact checking. For example, it's pretty easy to figure out Trump lied about drawing a bigger inauguration crowd than Obama. But what about the lies which we can't discover on our own? For those kinds of lies we rely on honest investigative reporters to dig for the facts and report on that.

But then we catch the media making **** up about Trump, how can we trust them when they say Trump lied about something that we can't verify for ourselves? How do we know THAT's not just another made up story because #resist?

The press didn't do its job with Obama, in holding him accountable because in their bias, they can't seem to report the ****ty things he did. By spreading fake news, the press is effectively failing to hold Trump accountable because they're too unreliable to trust when they legitimately catch him lying.

 

[Kutnupe14]

I don't think Trump Lies > Fake News, and here's why. There are two kinds of lies Trump can tell us. Those which we can figure out are lies by doing our own fact checking. For example, it's pretty easy to figure out Trump lied about drawing a bigger inauguration crowd than Obama. But what about the lies which we can't discover on our own? For those kinds of lies we rely on honest investigative reporters to dig for the facts and report on that.

But then we catch the media making **** up about Trump, how can we trust them when they say Trump lied about something that we can't verify for ourselves? How do we know THAT's not just another made up story because #resist?

The press didn't do its job with Obama, in holding him accountable because in their bias, they can't seem to report the ****ty things he did. By spreading fake news, the press is effectively failing to hold Trump accountable because they're too unreliable to trust when they legitimately catch him lying.

Just so you know what I meant. I was speaking of actual quantity. Trump has told well more lies since he's been in office than news stories about him that have been false. He lies for absolutely no reason.

 

[jamil]

Just so you know what I meant. I was speaking of actual quantity. Trump has told well more lies since he's been in office than news stories about him that have been false. He lies for absolutely no reason.

Ya. I think there's a reason. Ben Shapiro likened him to a New York cab driver. No filter. Not exactly truthful. Kinda boastful. Multiply that by 1000 times and you have Trump. Not exactly what we've become accustomed to in a President. I think he mostly seems to lie when it serves his ego. Most of his lies are like, my crowds are bigger than Obama's. Heads on the left explode when he does that. And then the right eats it up an just encourages it more.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Ya. I think there's a reason. Ben Shapiro likened him to a New York cab driver. No filter. Not exactly truthful. Kinda boastful. Multiply that by 1000 times and you have Trump. Not exactly what we've become accustomed to in a President. I think he mostly seems to lie when it serves his ego. Most of his lies are like, my crowds are bigger than Obama's. Heads on the left explode when he does that. And then the right eats it up an just encourages it more.

Which is a shame. If some of those on the right were raised like I was raised, then they would remember their parents told them that if you lie about the little things, then you will certainly lie about the big ones.

 

[Dddrees]

I don't think Trump Lies > Fake News, and here's why. There are two kinds of lies Trump can tell us. Those which we can figure out are lies by doing our own fact checking. For example, it's pretty easy to figure out Trump lied about drawing a bigger inauguration crowd than Obama. But what about the lies which we can't discover on our own? For those kinds of lies we rely on honest investigative reporters to dig for the facts and report on that.

But then we catch the media making **** up about Trump, how can we trust them when they say Trump lied about something that we can't verify for ourselves? How do we know THAT's not just another made up story because #resist?

The press didn't do its job with Obama, in holding him accountable because in their bias, they can't seem to report the ****ty things he did. By spreading fake news, the press is effectively failing to hold Trump accountable because they're too unreliable to trust when they legitimately catch him lying.

Ya. I think there's a reason. Ben Shapiro likened him to a New York cab driver. No filter. Not exactly truthful. Kinda boastful. Multiply that by 1000 times and you have Trump. Not exactly what we've become accustomed to in a President. I think he mostly seems to lie when it serves his ego. Most of his lies are like, my crowds are bigger than Obama's. Heads on the left explode when he does that. And then the right eats it up an just encourages it more.

What a bunch of convoluted cr**.

 

[ATM]

Which is a shame. If some of those on the right were raised like I was raised, then they would remember their parents told them that if you lie about the little things, then you will certainly lie about the big ones.

As POTUS, he's absolutely going to lie about the big ones.

 

[jamil]

What a bunch of convoluted cr**.

of course you think so. Unless you know both sides you know neither.

 

[jamil]

As POTUS, he's absolutely going to lie about the big ones.

This is what they all do.

 

[Dddrees]

of course you think so. Unless you know both sides you know neither.

No, I just think any rationalization or justification for someone lying is a bunch of horses***.

 

[Birds Away]

No, I just think any rationalization for someone lying is a bunch of horses***.

Yeah, we're still recovering from eight years of the media doing that. Now they want to be taken seriously. Pretty funny.

 

[Dddrees]

Yeah, we're still recovering from eight years of the media doing that. Now they want to be taken seriously. Pretty funny.

Gotta Luv this response.

Kinda suggests that because someone else did it now it's our turn. More Horses***!!

 

[Birds Away]

So horse**** from one side is intolerable but from the other side it is just dandy. Got it.

I'm not really a Trump fan but your debating skills, or lack thereof, certainly push me in that direction.

 

[Dddrees]

So horse**** from one side is intolerable but from the other side it is just dandy. Got it.

I'm not really a Trump fan but your debating skills, or lack thereof, certainly push me in that direction.

Never condoned it from either side.

Waddles like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck.

Looks like horses***, smells like horses***, it's horses***.

See for these things you don't need a phd nor even a masters degree.

 

[Birds Away]

Never condoned it from either side.

Waddles like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck.

Looks like horses***, smells like horses***, it's horses***.

See for these things you don't need a phd nor even a masters degree.

Sure, sure, I get it. The lies you hear from skilled, professional liars are much more palatable then those brusque amateurs.