Should We Deny Public Schooling to "Risky" Children?

[BigBoxaJunk]

Viruses mutate, live virus from an immediate host have a far greater chance of overcoming immune defenses, etc. All a vaccine does is give your body the blueprints for antibodies, it doesn't make you 100% immune.

You make a good point. The only problem is, theoretically, if a population is vaccinated against a virus for many generations, and the virus somehow is re-introduced to that population, any un-vaccinated individuals (or maybe even all the vaccinated ones) could be far more susceptible to the disease. A bit like when Small Pox and Measles were re-introduced to the native American population after many many generations of being isolated from it.

 

[RockofStrength]

You make a good point. The only problem is, theoretically, if a population is vaccinated against a virus for many generations, and the virus somehow is re-introduced to that population, any un-vaccinated individuals (or maybe even all the vaccinated ones) could be far more susceptible to the disease. A bit like when Small Pox and Measles were re-introduced to the native American population after many many generations of being isolated from it.

I'm no doctor and have done 0 research on this topic beyond general knowledge of how vaccines work, but it would seem that you would merely need to continue making vaccines over the years that "updated the blueprints" with a new version of the Measles or what have you. Or you could actually eradicate a given disease from the face of the earth (as we have done with smallpox, thus why no one is vaccinated against it anymore). That would keep the protection current so that we don't lose most of our population to a once-common illness as the natives did.

 

[Dean C.]

Guide to cause an INGO clash of opinions thread.
1. Support and advocate for a very thoroughly debunked scientific stance.
2. Ask an totally absurd hypothetical question based off of a 20 year old document.
3. Defend this opinion to the death paying no real mind to many different scientific studies conducted proving that the crackpot "study" was wrong (and a scam at worst).
4. Logical fallacies everywhere!!!!!!!!

What do I win??????

 

[Dosproduction]

Guide to cause an INGO clash of opinions thread.
1. Support and advocate for a very thoroughly debunked scientific stance.
2. Ask an totally absurd hypothetical question based off of a 20 year old document.
3. Defend this opinion to the death paying no real mind to many different scientific studies conducted proving that the crackpot "study" was wrong (and a scam at worst).
4. Logical fallacies everywhere!!!!!!!!

What do I win??????

You win a chickenpox vaccine. Happy? It is a requirement now to have the chickenpox vaccine.

 

[steveh_131]

Guide to cause an INGO clash of opinions thread.
1. Support and advocate for a very thoroughly debunked scientific stance.
2. Ask an totally absurd hypothetical question based off of a 20 year old document.
3. Defend this opinion to the death paying no real mind to many different scientific studies conducted proving that the crackpot "study" was wrong (and a scam at worst).
4. Logical fallacies everywhere!!!!!!!!

What do I win??????

You win the "I didn't read the thread or any research or anything at all other than CNN headlines really" award.

 

[churchmouse]

You win the "I didn't read the thread or any research or anything at all other than CNN headlines really" award.

Its something.........

 

[level.eleven]

Guide to cause an INGO clash of opinions thread.
1. Support and advocate for a very thoroughly debunked scientific stance.
2. Ask an totally absurd hypothetical question based off of a 20 year old document.
3. Defend this opinion to the death paying no real mind to many different scientific studies conducted proving that the crackpot "study" was wrong (and a scam at worst).
4. Logical fallacies everywhere!!!!!!!!

What do I win??????

One disgraced charlatan has fueled two decades of scientific denialism.

Here is a good read on how one man and his dishonesty can fuel a an epidemic. Of course, his followers, are just asking questions.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/02/u...-continuing-impact-on-public-health.html?_r=0

 

[hornadylnl]

One disgraced charlatan has fueled two decades of scientific denialism.

Here is a good read on how one man and his dishonesty can fuel a an epidemic. Of course, his followers, are just asking questions.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/02/u...-continuing-impact-on-public-health.html?_r=0

So what should happen to those who refuse vaccines?

 

[steveh_131]

Aww, you guys think that one study is the sum total of the skepticism towards vaccines? That's so cute. I bet you think gun owners are all compensating for small genitals, too.

 

[Dean C.]

Aww, you guys think that one study is the sum total of the skepticism towards vaccines? That's so cute. I bet you think gun owners are all compensating for small genitals, too.

That is a low blow that is why I carry a .45 so ha!!!!!!!!!!

 

[RockofStrength]

One disgraced charlatan has fueled two decades of scientific denialism.

Here is a good read on how one man and his dishonesty can fuel a an epidemic. Of course, his followers, are just asking questions.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/02/u...-continuing-impact-on-public-health.html?_r=0

Under no circumstances could I question the honesty and integrity of the CDC without believing the ravings of Wakefield.

 

[jamil]

I'd like to be in the business of producing a product that the government forced people to buy.

And doesn't allow people to sue the manufacturers.

 

[steveh_131]

For anyone who wants to learn the real story about Andrew Wakefields paper, I did some research on it here: https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/general-political-discussion/356362-legacy-dr-andrew-wakefield-myth-fact.html

 

[steveh_131]

And doesn't allow people to sue the manufacturers.

This right here blows my mind. What other industry works this way? They have no accountability for the effectiveness of their product and no liability when it damages someone (and it does). The taxpayers get to cover the damages of any lawsuits.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Why keep an anti-vax kid out of school? My kid would be vax'd so it wouldn't be an issue. Seems like a problem for ant-vax parents, who willingly let their kids go to school.

 

[level.eleven]

Don't worry humankind, anarcho-conspiracy theorist Steve has the REAL story of Wakefield.

He discovered too much. Thus, he was silenced.

Don't discount the reptilians in this.

 

[hornadylnl]

Don't worry humankind, anarcho-conspiracy theorist Steve has the REAL story of Wakefield.

He discovered too much. Thus, he was silenced.

Don't discount the reptilians in this.

So what should happen to those who refuse vaccines?

 

[level.eleven]

So what should happen to those who refuse vaccines?

BREAKING: Who is John Galt?

 

[hornadylnl]

BREAKING: Who is John Galt?

So what should happen to those who refuse vaccines?

 

[steveh_131]

Don't worry humankind, anarcho-conspiracy theorist Steve has the REAL story of Wakefield.

He discovered too much. Thus, he was silenced.

On which point do you disagree? Everything I said is documented fact, not theory.

So what should happen to those who refuse vaccines?

Still waiting.