Shepherds among sheep....

[lovemachine]

HOLY CRAP!

I had no idea this thread went down the crapper like that. I've only met VUPDblue 3 times. Granted I don't know him very well, what I do know from meeting him is that he's not one to make fun of anyone like that. He's not a disrespectful guy at all. He may be bald and freakishly tall, but that's about it! Although, he does act and look like a cop. I have noticed that. But I could have mistaken that for him not being one you'd want to **** off. He'd kick your ass! It's not intentional, but he just seems that way.

When I read the OP, I didn't sense any disrespect at all. I knew exactly what he was saying. This just got out of hand.

 

[esrice]

Hats off to Scarnucci for at least be able to articulate his points. If we're gonna argue, I'm glad we can do it civilly.

 

[shooter521]

I hope my point is clearer.

Yeah; the wording of your previous post threw me.

I understand what you're getting at, but I do not agree with your point at all, and like esrice, I'm struggling to connect it with the OP in this thread.

 

[360]

This thread is further proof that many around here have no sense of humor. I proved it a long long time ago, and now even the mods are getting heat.

Damn.

 

[esrice]

like esrice, I'm struggling to connect it with the OP in this thread.

If this thread were titled something like "The Police Are Our Shepherds, I Shall Not Want. . .", then I could understand his points better, as he would be speaking out against the "I'm a cop and I'm better than you" or the "us vs. them" mentality.

 

[VUPDblue]

As Esrice so articulately pointed out, my intent was not to differentiate between police and non police, but rather between the armed and vigilant and the unarmed and unaware.

ETA: I intend the word "vigilant" to mean a higher state of awareness...

 

[Bruenor]

You have to put this story into context. The OP was eating that The Rathskeller, so these were German shepherds he was talking about.

 

[Scarnucci]

I understand VUPD's position and accept what he says he was trying to convey.

I also understand and support a bit of what Harried was trying to say. (Although I am feeling more and more like I backed the wrong horse on that one...but that does not take away from my support of his point.)

I think that I've gotten my point of view out there and defended it well enough. Hopefully it made some people think.

 

[IndyMonkey]

I understand VUPD's position and accept what he says he was trying to convey.

I also understand and support a bit of what Harried was trying to say. (Although I am feeling more and more like I backed the wrong horse on that one...but that does not take away from my support of his point.)

I think that I've gotten my point of view out there and defended it well enough. Hopefully it made some people think.

The only thing it makes me think is that you fail at reading comprehension.

Now VUPDBlue is going to second guess posting topics, which is BS.

Im sorry but I can not post as elegant as some of the others, I should of payed attention more in school.

 

[360]

The only thing it makes me think is that you fail at reading comprehension.

Now VUPDBlue is going to second guess posting topics, which is BS.

Im sorry but I can not post as elegant as some of the others, I should of payed attention more in school.

You're like me...you say it with brute force.

 

[shooter521]

Now VUPDBlue is going to second guess posting topics

You had dinner with the guy, but it turns out you don't know him at all...

 

[IndyMonkey]

You're like me...you say it with brute force.

Its really ridiculous that someone gets butt hurt over something that was not said. Even when it was reiterated several times that the person misunderstood the OP they still want to argue about it.

 

[IndyMonkey]

You had dinner with the guy, but it turns out you don't know him at all...

Just because we ate in the same restaurant doesn't mean we had dinner together. Who would want to slum with a roofer?

 

[VUPDblue]

You had dinner with the guy, but it turns out you don't know him at all...

We had dinner in the same restaurant, but not necessarily together

 

[DeadeyeChrista'sdad]

Oh, for Pete's sake...... VUPDblue, we getcha. And yes, it's sometimes amusing to think of all the haters in a crowd who are, in fact, a little safer because you're there and carrying, and don't know it.
Scarnucci, you've missed your meds again. Let it go. The whole "us vs them" thing was NEVER present in the OP.

Captain says the smoking light is lit.
That is all.

 

[Andre46996]

Well you certainly are opinionated. Well, I do hope I have to cut the cheese...

This pretty much sums up my feeling on this... Somebody is trolling. I have met VUPD and he is a hell of a guy. Never struck me as a wannabe badarse or hero wannabe.

Very similar to cutting the cheese I think every time somebody opens their mouth a small amount of fecal matter escapes...

 

[VUPDblue]

Come on guys, give Scarnucci a break. He seems to understand what point I was trying to get across. I even see where he was coming from. Next time I'll choose my words more carefully

 

[bigus_D]

.....

 

[shibumiseeker]

Actually, Bigus, it's more like, to paraphrase an old USENET expression:

Just a typical day on INGO: An angry mob beating a greasy spot on the pavement where used to lie the body of a dead horse.

Actually it's not quite that bad, but I look for excuses to use that

 

[HICKMAN]

So if you're police, you think your job is to "shepherd sheep", and by calling unarmed civilians sheep, you're implying that you'd rather have everyone armed so that the police won't have to do what they're paid to do. Is this right? On the other hand, if you're a civilian and you carried in this restaurant, and you think you're "shepherding sheep", just what do you think you'll do if there was a disturbance? What will an armed civilian do if there was an abusive customer there, or if a domestic fight broke out between a couple, or if someone ran out on their tab? Will you have acted like a "hero" and drawn your gun and shot people? Just what do you think you are "shepherding" people from, and by the way, did these people ask you to be their "shepherd"? Carrying a firearm is for self-defense, not for vigilante BS, even if that's what makes you feel better. In other words, MYOFB, you're not the town savior.