SCOTUS Strikes Down ObamaCare Individual Mandate

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I think those sentiments are particularly ridiculous considering that your father is a small businessman who, presumably, has his business to make money rather than to support employees (if he were in that business, he'd supply them with health insurance, wouldn't he?). The 'damn millionaires and billionaires' supply the money that creates jobs for the average joe and jane. In terms of actual dollars paid, they pay something like 75% of all income taxes, so why should they pay a higher percentage.

You're obviously young and probably not very smart because your old man is a businessman and you don't understand the first thing about what it takes to run a business or you would put stupid statements like that in purple text, the way that sort of statement should always be rendered.

Zowwweeee!

again, we don't have an revenue problem, we have a SPENDING problem

Why is this so hard to understand?

 

[Blackhawk2001]

I think those sentiments are particularly ridiculous considering that your father is a small businessman who, presumably, has his business to make money rather than to support employees (if he were in that business, he'd supply them with health insurance, wouldn't he?). The 'damn millionaires and billionaires' supply the money that creates jobs for the average joe and jane. In terms of actual dollars paid, they pay something like 75% of all income taxes, so why should they pay a higher percentage.

You're obviously young and probably not very smart because your old man is a businessman and you don't understand the first thing about what it takes to run a business or you would put stupid statements like that in purple text, the way that sort of statement should always be rendered.

Man! I should have taken a breath sometime during that last paragraph!

 

[level.eleven]

Just what do you suppose "Fast & Furious" was about?

You are an intelligent poster. Please tell me you aren't joining the truther/birther/banner camp.

 

[PKendall317]

I think those sentiments are particularly ridiculous considering that your father is a small businessman who, presumably, has his business to make money rather than to support employees (if he were in that business, he'd supply them with health insurance, wouldn't he?). The 'damn millionaires and billionaires' supply the money that creates jobs for the average joe and jane. In terms of actual dollars paid, they pay something like 75% of all income taxes, so why should they pay a higher percentage.

You're obviously young and probably not very smart because your old man is a businessman and you don't understand the first thing about what it takes to run a business or you would put stupid statements like that in purple text, the way that sort of statement should always be rendered.

For your information I am very smart and will be starting my fourth year of college this fall. And you're right, I don't know how to run a business, and I don't care too, but at one point HE DID provide health insurance but he no longer does for reasons that I've never asked about. Lastly, I haven't criticized ANYONE on this forum or insulted their intelligence because of their statements or political beliefs and unlike you am respectful enough of other people's opinions to refrain from doing so. I'd say more, but I'm not going to on a public forum.

 

[manwithnoname]

I think those sentiments are particularly ridiculous considering that your father is a small businessman who, presumably, has his business to make money rather than to support employees (if he were in that business, he'd supply them with health insurance, wouldn't he?). The 'damn millionaires and billionaires' supply the money that creates jobs for the average joe and jane. In terms of actual dollars paid, they pay something like 75% of all income taxes, so why should they pay a higher percentage.

You're obviously young and probably not very smart because your old man is a businessman and you don't understand the first thing about what it takes to run a business or you would put stupid statements like that in purple text, the way that sort of statement should always be rendered.

Well said, Sir.

 

[findingZzero]

I can't wait to see John Stewart skewer the **** out of all the news outlets that couldn't wait to read pgs 2-3 before wrongly reporting the SCOTUS decision. This should be fun. We don't care if we're right as long as we're first!!

 

[hornadylnl]

I can't wait to see John Stewart skewer the **** out of all the news outlets that couldn't wait to read pgs 2-3 before wrongly reporting the SCOTUS decision. This should be fun. We don't care if we're right as long as we're first!!

Kind of like exit polls and how they're used to manipulate votes.

 

[Roadie]

I'm not certain but I think you're right about that. I also think that the damn millionaires and billionaires should pay a higher tax rate than the average joe does, so they can support the government and country that allows them to become millionaires and billionaires.

They already do. Stop buying the hype. The tax code and rates are public knowledge. Look them up.

Remember, many "millionaires" are employees who pay State and Federal income taxes... So you don't think someone paying 35% of their income to the Fed's is paying enough??

 

[PKendall317]

I'm not certain but I think you're right about that. I also think that the damn millionaires and billionaires should pay a higher tax rate than the average joe does, so they can support the government and country that allows them to become millionaires and billionaires.

"so they can support the government and country that allows them to become millionaires and billionaires"

That isn't exactly how I wanted that statement to sound. No, I am not, nor have I ever been or ever will be a supporter of Karl Marx. At the very least I find his work to be interesting, but nothing I'd ever support. It would probably be more accurate to describe me as a young idealist.

I simply meant to say that I belive people of the upper class (millionaires, billionaires, the "1%" even though I hate that term and don't want to get caught up in any of it) should pay a higher, but REASONABLE tax than your average joe/jane.

To Roadie and the one or two other individuals who brought this up, I am not familiar with the current tax codes and am in no position to accurately state how much I think people should be taxed.

 

[PKendall317]

Also, nobody answered my question. Does anyone know how Obamacare will effect business owners who currently DO NOT provid health insurance?

 

[Bradsknives]

Two Words..."Flat Tax".

Why should someone be penlized (Paying higher taxes) for being sucessful?

 

[Bunnykid68]

"so they can support the government and country that allows them to become millionaires and billionaires"

That isn't exactly how I wanted that statement to sound. No, I am not, nor have I ever been or ever will be a supporter of Karl Marx. At the very least I find his work to be interesting, but nothing I'd ever support. It would probably be more accurate to describe me as a young idealist.

I simply meant to say that I belive people of the upper class (millionaires, billionaires, the "1%" even though I hate that term and don't want to get caught up in any of it) should pay a higher, but REASONABLE tax than your average joe/jane.

To Roadie and the one or two other individuals who brought this up, I am not familiar with the current tax codes and am in no position to accurately state how much I think people should be taxed.

If I make a million dollars and pay 10% I would pay $100,000, if you make $100,000 you only pay $10,000. I would pay 10 times the amount you would, seems fair to me if everyone pays the same rate period.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

"so they can support the government and country that allows them to become millionaires and billionaires"

That isn't exactly how I wanted that statement to sound. No, I am not, nor have I ever been or ever will be a supporter of Karl Marx. At the very least I find his work to be interesting, but nothing I'd ever support. It would probably be more accurate to describe me as a young idealist.

I simply meant to say that I belive people of the upper class (millionaires, billionaires, the "1%" even though I hate that term and don't want to get caught up in any of it) should pay a higher, but REASONABLE tax than your average joe/jane.

To Roadie and the one or two other individuals who brought this up, I am not familiar with the current tax codes and am in no position to accurately state how much I think people should be taxed.

But in the midst of your admitted ignorance you can so confidently proclaim it is only fair that one group of people pay a larger share than another?

 

[Roadie]

"so they can support the government and country that allows them to become millionaires and billionaires"

That isn't exactly how I wanted that statement to sound. No, I am not, nor have I ever been or ever will be a supporter of Karl Marx. At the very least I find his work to be interesting, but nothing I'd ever support. It would probably be more accurate to describe me as a young idealist.

I simply meant to say that I belive people of the upper class (millionaires, billionaires, the "1%" even though I hate that term and don't want to get caught up in any of it) should pay a higher, but REASONABLE tax than your average joe/jane.

To Roadie and the one or two other individuals who brought this up, I am not familiar with the current tax codes and am in no position to accurately state how much I think people should be taxed.

If you make over $330,000 a year you pay 35%.
If you make $35,000 or less you pay 15%.

So, in other words, they already ARE paying "a higher, but [STRIKE]REASONABLE [/STRIKE]tax than your average joe/jane."

BTW, who decides what is "reasonable"? More than double than some people doesn't seem reasonable to me. (btw, in the interest of disclosure, I am in the 15% bracket, not rich)

 

[Magneto]

Imposing a tax through judicial legislation inverts the constitutional scheme, and places the power to tax in the branch of government least accountable to the citizenry.-- Justice Antonin Scalia

 

[Roadie]

Also, nobody answered my question. Does anyone know how Obamacare will effect business owners who currently DO NOT provid health insurance?

He will r'cv tax breaks if he provides healthcare, but be fined if he does not, from what I understand.

 

[Bunnykid68]

But I'm the midst of your ignorance you can so confidently proclaim it is only fair that one group of people pay a larger share than another?

The only group that should pay a larger share are those that make a buttload more than the others, so long as it is at the same rate.

 

[CX1]

Remember, many "millionaires" are employees who pay State and Federal income taxes... So you don't think someone paying 35% of their income to the Fed's is paying enough??

Sure, but when they rig the system and end up only paying <15% while the middle class pays 35% it seems a bit unbalanced.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

The only group that should pay a larger share are those that make a buttload more than the others, so long as it is at the same rate.

Right. Share = rate in my post.

 

[hornadylnl]

Imposing a tax through judicial legislation inverts the constitutional scheme, and places the power to tax in the branch of government least accountable to the citizenry.-- Justice Antonin Scalia

Scalia must not have picked up on Robert's brilliant strategy yet.