Russia vs Ukraine anyone watching this ignite?

[KellyinAvon]

Just when you thought, "I've seen everything"...

Afghanistan's Taliban government calls for 'restraint' in Ukraine-Russia war​

Taliban government expressed concern about civilian casualties, calling for 'restraint' from violence​

Afghanistan's Taliban government calls for 'restraint' in Ukraine-Russia war

The Taliban-controlled government of Afghanistan released a statement Friday addressing the Russia-Ukraine war, urging restraint and expressing concern for civilians.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Expat]

Since the Ukraine had to pass a law against their men fleeing the country, because they were all fleeing the country, will Fox continue telling us how brave they all are and going to give the Russians a real bloody nose.

 

[Jaybird1980]

Civilians can't leave.

And we call Ukraine the good guys, lol.

Forcing your civilian population to become combatants without training or arms is a depraved act, at least to me.

The thought that either is the good guy.

 

[Mgderf]

I wonder what the Ukrainians could do with the billions of dollars of military equipment we left in Afghanistan.

 

[wagyu52]

Maybe Syria and Libya would be better off if so many men 18-60 hadn’t left. I got no problem with that order.

 

[DragonGunner]

When you ban men leaving their country you have already lost. If it was a country loved and doing good the men wouldn't even want to leave, they would be taking up arms and fighting. You know......just like Vietnam....?

 

[thunderchicken]

Just when you thought, "I've seen everything"...

Afghanistan's Taliban government calls for 'restraint' in Ukraine-Russia war​

Taliban government expressed concern about civilian casualties, calling for 'restraint' from violence​

Afghanistan's Taliban government calls for 'restraint' in Ukraine-Russia war

The Taliban-controlled government of Afghanistan released a statement Friday addressing the Russia-Ukraine war, urging restraint and expressing concern for civilians.

www.foxnews.com

Did I miss something? Seriously the Taliban is calling for restraint?? What in the corndog hell is happening?

 

[DragonGunner]

Thoughts.....?

 

[tackdriver]

Since the Ukraine had to pass a law against their men fleeing the country, because they were all fleeing the country, will Fox continue telling us how brave they all are and going to give the Russians a real bloody nose.

Just to be fair, I imagine what would/will really happen here in the USA under similar conditions. There would be at least a million or or two ************ (I won't call the men) that would run/hide/surrender as fast as they could. That doesn't mean that those that stay are any less capable and willing to dish out more than a bloody nose.

Instead of a law against men fleeing, there should be a law against them coming back!

When a man voluntarily abandons his property, his neighbors, and his country, they should be considered permanently abandoned. He cant just get them back if/when the danger he ran from passes.

 

[Expat]

Surely Vlad will be rethinking all of this now that the countries of the world are putting on their Ukraine colored lights.

 

[rooster]

I’m reading Chechen paramilitary groups are being sent to Ukraine. Whose side are they on?

I feel like we are watching WW3 start. If nato gets involved this goes global.

 

[KG1]

Our administration...

Another **** stick. I think he's been inhaling too many jet fumes whilst flying around the globe emitting vast amounts of carbon.

 

[Expat]

I’m reading Chechen paramilitary groups are being sent to Ukraine. Whose side are they on?

I feel like we are watching WW3 start. If nato gets involved this goes global.

I heard they were being sent to hunt down the Ukrainians that Putin wants dead.

 

[KG1]

Thoughts.....?

She's hawt. Oh, you mean you want my thoughts on what she had to say.

 

[KG1]

Well, at least so far Zelensky is not cutting and running. I would have more respect for him if he went down with the ship whilst coercing others to stay by declaring marshal law. It would be a different story if he did that and exited stage left.

 

[thunderchicken]

Maybe Syria and Libya would be better off if so many men 18-60 hadn’t left. I got no problem with that order.

Honestly, I'm kind of on the fence with that order.
There are a wide number of reasons that could prevent a man from fighting. Forcing people into an already bad situation, could just as likely result in wide spread surrender and obviously many casualties.
However, I would like to think that most men are capable of putting up some kind of fight for their own survival and preservation of their way of life etc. Seems to me knowing how likely an invasion looked weeks, months in advance I can't fathom why they waited until the last minutes to approve law allowing civilians to have guns.
I could be wrong in my historical accuracy here. Didn't we at one time pretty much require all able bodied men of a certain age to have the basic supplies of militia men? If I'm correct, that was to ensure that in an emergency all those men could be called upon to defend our land. So what they have ordered doesn't seem overly outlandish other than not arming the masses well before they did.

 

[KG1]

Honestly, I'm kind of on the fence with that order.
There are a wide number of reasons that could prevent a man from fighting. Forcing people into an already bad situation, could just as likely result in wide spread surrender and obviously many casualties.
However, I would like to think that most men are capable of putting up some kind of fight for their own survival and preservation of their way of life etc. Seems to me knowing how likely an invasion looked weeks, months in advance I can't fathom why they waited until the last minutes to approve law allowing civilians to have guns.
I could be wrong in my historical accuracy here. Didn't we at one time pretty much require all able bodied men of a certain age to have the basic supplies of militia men? If I'm correct, that was to ensure that in an emergency all those men could be called upon to defend our land. So what they have ordered doesn't seem overly outlandish other than not arming the masses well before they did.

I pretty much agree with this. I also agree with the last part and that's not giving/allowing them the tools to put up a defense until the last hour if they are not allowed to leave.

 

[oze]

Just to be fair, I imagine what would/will really happen here in the USA under similar conditions. There would be at least a million or or two ************ (I won't call the men) that would run/hide/surrender as fast as they could. That doesn't mean that those that stay are any less capable and willing to dish out more than a bloody nose.

Instead of a law against men fleeing, there should be a law against them coming back!

When a man voluntarily abandons his property, his neighbors, and his country, they should be considered permanently abandoned. He cant just get them back if/when the danger he ran from passes.

Now that you mention it, I do recall something about American draft dodgers crawling across the Canadian border in the 60s. I still consider the sap that pardoned them #1 on the list of the worst presidents in history.

 

[Slapstick]

Honestly, I'm kind of on the fence with that order.
There are a wide number of reasons that could prevent a man from fighting. Forcing people into an already bad situation, could just as likely result in wide spread surrender and obviously many casualties.
However, I would like to think that most men are capable of putting up some kind of fight for their own survival and preservation of their way of life etc. Seems to me knowing how likely an invasion looked weeks, months in advance I can't fathom why they waited until the last minutes to approve law allowing civilians to have guns.
I could be wrong in my historical accuracy here. Didn't we at one time pretty much require all able bodied men of a certain age to have the basic supplies of militia men? If I'm correct, that was to ensure that in an emergency all those men could be called upon to defend our land. So what they have ordered doesn't seem overly outlandish other than not arming the masses well before they did.

Yep the Militia Act of 1792, it was amended several times in the following years.

The Militia Act of 1792

constitution.org

Edit: The relevant part, "...That every citizen, so enrolled and notified, shall, within six months thereafter, provide himself with a good musket or firelock, a sufficient bayonet and belt, two spare flints, and a knapsack, a pouch, with a box therein, to contain not less than twenty four cartridges, suited to the bore of his musket or firelock, each cartridge to contain a proper quantity of powder and ball; or with a good rifle, knapsack, shot-pouch, and powder-horn, twenty balls suited to the bore of his rifle, and a quarter of a pound of powder; and shall appear so armed, accoutred and provided, when called out to exercise or into service, except, that when called out on company days to exercise only, he may appear without a knapsack. That the commissioned Officers shall severally be armed with a sword or hanger, and espontoon; and that from and after five years from the passing of this Act, all muskets from arming the militia as is herein required, shall be of bores sufficient for balls of the eighteenth part of a pound; and every citizen so enrolled, and providing himself with the arms, ammunition and accoutrements, required as aforesaid, shall hold the same exempted from all suits, distresses, executions or sales, for debt or for the payment of taxes..."

 

[tackdriver]

Now that you mention it, I do recall something about American draft dodgers crawling across the Canadian border in the 60s. I still consider the sap that pardoned them #1 on the list of the worst presidents in history.

yup.

That sap is getting some fierce competition for the title.