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    Ark

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    Now it appears we do have European allies blocking us from actions against Russia.

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    Germany doesn't want to freeze to death.

    European natgas jumped 60%+ in the last 24 hours.
     

    KG1

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    Um. History says he is likely right on that point.

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    Ok. Got any ties to the current regime? How can Putin claim the current regime is committing genocide against Russian speaking Ukrainians using Neo Nazi's when President Zelensky is of Russian speaking Jewish heritage and his grandfather fought in the Soviet infantry against the Nazi's in WWII. I'm not buying Putin's current reasoning. You might.

     
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    Germany doesn't want to freeze to death.

    European natgas jumped 60%+ in the last 24 hours.

    SWIFT has nothing to do with the gas situation, as far as I'm aware.

    That's basically just electronic payment processing. Russia created/is creating their own alternative system with China.
     

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    SWIFT has nothing to do with the gas situation, as far as I'm aware.

    That's basically just electronic payment processing. Russia created/is creating their own alternative system with China.
    Correct but the energy situation is still a major piece of leverage for Russia.
     

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    Chechen loyalist militias have been brought for "clean up operations" against the Ukraine forces holding out. These guys are ruthless comparable to the acts carried out by ISIS.
     

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    Ok. Got any ties to the current regime? How can Putin claim the current regime is committing genocide against Russian Ukrainians using Neo Nazi's when President Zelensky is of Russian Jewish heritage and his grandfather fought against the Nazi's in WWII.

    You mean the actor who played the Ukrainian president in a comical TV show...that became a real political party in 2018,when he then ran for actual president under the new party and won the popular vote for the actual presidency?
    If you are asking if I think the government of Ukraine is still controlled by svboda the answer is yes.If you are asking if the current sitting president of Ukraine is a Nazi the answer is no...he is an actor,just like he was before his election into office.
     

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    Putin is out to kill off all the Ukraine nationalists. That's what he's calling Nazis. Some here have swallowed his propaganda all the way down. He has brought in Chechen loyalist militias to hunt down and kill these people who love their country who are not Nazis at all. Talk about genocide.
     

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    You mean the actor who played the Ukrainian president in a comical TV show...that became a real political party in 2018,when he then ran for actual president under the new party and won the popular vote for the actual presidency?
    If you are asking if I think the government of Ukraine is still controlled by svboda the answer is yes.If you are asking if the current sitting president of Ukraine is a Nazi the answer is no...he is an actor,just like he was before his election into office.
    You" think"? I don't think svoboda has the current national clout to control the Ukraiianan government's official actions as a nation. Again, I feel compelled to ask you for current proof.
     

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    Isn't that just going to result in mass Ukrainian deaths, after all these are dangerous weapons of war that no untrained civilian should ever have!?

    In real life they are definitely gonna get slaughtered going up against a mechanized military that owns the air. No comms, no organization, no command. 50 dead to one GSW inflicted on a Russian soldier would be optimistic.

    Remains to be seen whether anyone has intent to use them.
     

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    Putin is out to kill off all the Ukraine nationalists. That's what he's calling Nazis. Some here have swallowed his propaganda all the way down. He has brought in Chechen loyalist militias to hunt down and kill these people who love their country who are not Nazis at all. Talk about genocide.
    You mean like the former German chancellor warning the world about svboda ,and that Russia may not be wrong?
    It is not Russian propaganda that links svboda to the neo-Nazi National Democratic Party (NPD) in Germany.
     

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    Good read.............​

    You Can Thank Environmentalists for the Invasion of Ukraine​

    Per Statista, here are the countries most dependent on Russia for natural gas. The percentages tell us just how dependent:

    • North Macedonia (100 percent)
    • Finland (94 percent)
    • Bulgaria (74 percent)
    • Slovakia (70 percent)
    • Germany (49 percent)
    • Italy (46 percent)
    • Poland (40 percent)
    • France (24 percent)
    It gets worse.

    As of 2019, a full 27 percent of the European Union’s crude oil, 41 percent of its natural gas, and 47 percent of its solid fuel (mostly coal) come from Russia.

    Everything that has happened since Joe Biden allegedly won the 2020 election has told Putin to go right ahead and invade Ukraine.

    • On day one, Biden shut down the Keystone XL pipeline.
    • Biden greenlit Nord Stream 2, a Russian pipeline that will provide 55 billion cubic meters of natural gas to Europe every year.
    • Germany announces the closing of three of its six nuclear power plants just because the wackos demand it.
    • The E.U. closes a bunch of coal mines.

     

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    Kiev is now surrounded on three sides, and Russian ground forces are pushing towards it the majority of Russian forces are approximately 15 miles out from center of Kiev.
     
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