Russia vs Ukraine anyone watching this ignite?

[DadSmith]

@Tombs You really think iron dome would stop the invasion of Ukraine?

 

[Tombs]

@Tombs You really think iron dome would stop the invasion of Ukraine?

I really think that "our greatest ally" should behave like one and allow us to assist other countries when we wish to, rather than hamstringing us out of fears over offending someone.

 

[Leadeye]

He's already the richest man in the world, not sure he needs or want more cash.

My French INGO member, if there's one thing that's absolutely certain, it's that how rich people are, never governs their passion for more. Over my 50+ years in various businesses the only variable is the amount. Millionaires want to be billionaires, billionaires want to be trillionaires, on and on and on.

 

[DadSmith]

@Tombs Maybe we should not have pulled out of Ukraine and all of Europe with us. Maybe Europe and the US should have built up forces there instead. That definitely would have stopped Putin’s plan because he doesn't want war with the United States and Europe.

 

[frenchiectfd2203]

Anybody getting a pool going on the date we start sending pallets of cash to Putin.

30 days…

 

[Tombs]

@Tombs Maybe we should not have pulled out of Ukraine and all of Europe with us. Maybe Europe and the US should have built up forces there instead. That definitely would have stopped Putin’s plan because he doesn't want war with the United States and Europe.

What does this have to do with saying that Israel should behave like an ally instead of blocking our geopolitical peacekeeping efforts?

 

[DadSmith]

I can ask you the same question about the EU and the United States.

 

[Tombs]

I can ask you the same question about the EU and the United States.

Is the EU blocking our sanctions?

 

[smokingman]

Putin is also using the bogus excuse that they had to take military action to combat a "Nazi like regime" like it's as a noble cause which they were a part of that harkens way back to WWII.

Um. History says he is likely right on that point.

Never Forget: Obama Put Neo-Nazis in Power in the Ukraine, Who's Now Arming North Korea

The U.S. has a long history of using neo-nazis to further its national and international interests. Now, the Ukraine coup is coming back to haunt them.

thefreethoughtproject.com

 

[DadSmith]

Ukraine got a signed commitment in 1994 to ensure its security – but can the US and allies stop Putin’s aggression now?

As Russia threatens to invade Ukraine, Ukrainians wonder about the worth of a 1994 agreement signed by Russia, the US and the UK, who promised to protect the newly independent state’s sovereignty.

theconversation.com

I guess we all failed to provide Ukraine security as agreed upon.

 

[Tombs]

https://www.jpost.com/christianworld/article-698214

Israel blocks the US aiding Ukraine with the Iron dome.

Then Israel pleads with US citizens to fight a war for them. I am so tired of clown world.

 

[Tombs]

Ukraine got a signed commitment in 1994 to ensure its security – but can the US and allies stop Putin’s aggression now?

As Russia threatens to invade Ukraine, Ukrainians wonder about the worth of a 1994 agreement signed by Russia, the US and the UK, who promised to protect the newly independent state’s sovereignty.

theconversation.com

I guess we all failed to provide Ukraine security as agreed upon.

Budapest Memorandum - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Read it and find me the wording anywhere that any signatory is guaranteeing any nation's borders.

 

[DadSmith]

Give up your nuclear weapons Ukraine we will protect you.....

 

[smokingman]

Looks like Putin does not give a rat's *** about the "threats of sanctions".

Huh.... who would have thought?

Germany on taking Russia out of swift today.
Olaf Scholz, German chancellor, "warned Johnson on Thursday that his country would not support such a dramatic move and neither would the EU, according to officials close to sanctions negotiations.

 

[Tombs]

Give up your nuclear weapons Ukraine we will protect you.....

More like, "Move these nukes out of your country and we will give you an """""""""assurance"""""""" that you will be safe."

If you want to see an agreement where actual promises were made, look at Poland. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Polish_alliance

 

[Tombs]

Now it appears we do have European allies blocking us from actions against Russia.

 

[DadSmith]

Excuses on your part Tombs. If Ukraine had kept their nuclear weapons and was willing to use them that would have stopped Russian aggression.

 

[Shadow01]

What does this have to do with saying that Israel should behave like an ally instead of blocking our geopolitical peacekeeping efforts?

Then we should treat her like the ally we expect her to be… Dems undercut the state of Israel at every “peace talk” with the palestinians.

 

[DragonGunner]

Give up your nuclear weapons Ukraine we will protect you.....

Thats what I brought up a few pages back. The Ukraine generals said not to give up the nukes. The people said no, get rid of them. One general held out until 1994 to get a agreement of protection. LOL. The sheep disarm themselves, then expect governments to protect them from wolves. Hard lesson to learn idiots. Russia and Ukraine problem. I really cannot feel sorry for Ukraine anymore. You got your freedom and then disarmed. You learned nothing from the USA or Russia, our governments suck to high heaven with corruption.

 

[Tombs]

Thats what I brought up a few pages back. The Ukraine generals said not to give up the nukes. The people said no, get rid of them. One general held out until 1994 to get a agreement of protection. LOL. The sheep disarm themselves, then expect governments to protect them from wolves. Hard lesson to learn idiots. Russia and Ukraine problem. I really cannot feel sorry for Ukraine anymore. You got your freedom and then disarmed. You learned nothing from the USA or Russia, our governments suck to high heaven with corruption.

This is why I laugh any time someone says X country should surrender its nukes.

Surrendering nukes never has a happy outcome.