RSOs view of the world.. Training or the lack of it :)

[wtburnette]

Great story from today.. One of the range counter associates told me a guy returned a rental Glock and when it was locked open he noticed that the barrel was angled upwards. Commented "that must be the reason I couldn't hit anything, the barrel is bent".

[FONT=&amp]NRA Life Member / [/FONT]Basic Pistol instructor[FONT=&amp] / RSO[/FONT][FONT=&amp]

[/FONT][FONT=&amp]"Under pressure, you don't rise to the occasion, you sink to the level of your training. That's why we train so hard" [/FONT][FONT=&amp]
[/FONT][FONT=&amp]Unnamed Navy Seal[/FONT][FONT=&amp]

[/FONT][FONT=&amp]“Ego is the reason many men do not shoot competition. They don't want to suck in public” [/FONT][FONT=&amp]
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[/FONT][FONT=&amp]Aron Bright[/FONT]

 

[churchmouse]

Great story from today.. One of the range counter associates told me a guy returned a rental Glock and when it was locked open he noticed that the barrel was angled upwards. Commented "that must be the reason I couldn't hit anything, the barrel is bent".

[FONT=&]NRA Life Member / [/FONT]Basic Pistol instructor[FONT=&] / RSO[/FONT][FONT=&]

[/FONT][FONT=&]"Under pressure, you don't rise to the occasion, you sink to the level of your training. That's why we train so hard" [/FONT][FONT=&]
[/FONT][FONT=&]Unnamed Navy Seal[/FONT][FONT=&]

[/FONT][FONT=&]“Ego is the reason many men do not shoot competition. They don't want to suck in public” [/FONT][FONT=&]
[/FONT][FONT=&]
[/FONT][FONT=&]Aron Bright[/FONT]

Man you can not make this stuff up......

 

[Skywired]

Great story from today.. One of the range counter associates told me a guy returned a rental Glock and when it was locked open he noticed that the barrel was angled upwards. Commented "that must be the reason I couldn't hit anything, the barrel is bent".

[FONT=&amp]NRA Life Member / [/FONT]Basic Pistol instructor[FONT=&amp] / RSO[/FONT][FONT=&amp]

[/FONT][FONT=&amp]"Under pressure, you don't rise to the occasion, you sink to the level of your training. That's why we train so hard" [/FONT][FONT=&amp]
[/FONT][FONT=&amp]Unnamed Navy Seal[/FONT][FONT=&amp]

[/FONT][FONT=&amp]“Ego is the reason many men do not shoot competition. They don't want to suck in public” [/FONT][FONT=&amp]
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[/FONT][FONT=&amp]Aron Bright[/FONT]

"There Is Nothing More Dangerous Than Sincere Ignorance"

 

[Tactically Fat]

I returned the rental G17 w/ the RDS on it because it wasn't sighted in. I definitely couldn't hit anything when using the dot as an aiming point. But it wasn't because the barrel was bent.

I think you should have a demo pistol kept behind the rental counter. One that doesn't have any sights at all. And when folks complain about inaccurate pistols or bad sights or whatever - you go get that one and shoot it at the target @ 21' and watch them be amazed at how good it'd be even without sights.

I've thought about doing this with one of my pistols but I just haven't. I haven't taught a new shooter in ages - and I'm not a good teacher anyhow.

 

[NHT3]

Latest pistol training tips.... Lock your elbows straight out, point where you are going and squeeze the trigger. That's all there is to it.
After having his thumb split open shooting a Mossburg Shockwave guy says to his buddy, "why did you put a f&^%ing rail section on the fore end? reply "because it looks cool".

[FONT=&amp]NRA Life Member / [/FONT]Basic Pistol instructor[FONT=&amp] / RSO[/FONT][FONT=&amp]

[/FONT][FONT=&amp]"Under pressure, you don't rise to the occasion, you sink to the level of your training. That's why we train so hard" [/FONT][FONT=&amp]
[/FONT][FONT=&amp]Unnamed Navy Seal[/FONT][FONT=&amp]

[/FONT][FONT=&amp]“Ego is the reason many men do not shoot competition. They don't want to suck in public” [/FONT][FONT=&amp]
[/FONT][FONT=&amp]
[/FONT][FONT=&amp]Aron Bright[/FONT]

 

[NHT3]

Not from the range but verbatim from a listing on Gunbroker and I had to share. "Only fired once by accident being it's a Glock"


[FONT=&amp]NRA Life Member / [/FONT]Basic Pistol instructor[FONT=&amp] / RSO[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&amp]"Under pressure, you don't rise to the occasion, you sink to the level of your training. That's why we train so hard" [/FONT][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][FONT=&amp]Unnamed Navy Seal[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]“Ego is the reason many men do not shoot competition. They don't want to suck in public” [/FONT][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][FONT=&amp]Aron Bright[/FONT]

 

[NHT3]

Related from the RSO I relieved yesterday. Guy caught a freshly ejected piece of brass down his back and lodged below the belt line. Laid his pistol down and started dancing foot to foot saying, hot, hot, hot. After a few seconds of dancing stripped his pants down to his ankles to get the brass from his crack. One of those "hard to sell without pictures" stories but I have no doubt it happened.
On my watch I confronted a guy that had a small 380, slide closed pointing it at almost every part of HIS anatomy while he talked to the guy in the next stall. I said "I hope that isn't loaded since you are pointing it at yourself" His response still puzzles me, he said "as long as it's pointing at me it's pointed in a safe direction"? I requested that he place it on the firing line which he did. At that point he says to me, "what's the first rule of gun safety?" My response, always treat it like it's loaded. He responded, "that's right". Still trying to figure out what what was in his mind.

[FONT=&amp]NRA Life Member / [/FONT]Basic Pistol instructor[FONT=&amp] / RSO[/FONT][FONT=&amp]

[/FONT][FONT=&amp]"Under pressure, you don't rise to the occasion, you sink to the level of your training. That's why we train so hard" [/FONT][FONT=&amp]
[/FONT][FONT=&amp]Unnamed Navy Seal[/FONT][FONT=&amp]

[/FONT][FONT=&amp]“Ego is the reason many men do not shoot competition. They don't want to suck in public” [/FONT][FONT=&amp]
[/FONT][FONT=&amp]
[/FONT][FONT=&amp]Aron Bright[/FONT]

 

[wtburnette]

Wow, just wow.

 

[dudley0]

Still trying to figure out what what was in his mind[FONT=&amp][/FONT][FONT=&amp][/FONT][FONT=&amp][/FONT][FONT=&amp][/FONT][FONT=&amp][/FONT]

Sounds to me like it could have been a .380 slug if given a little more time.

 

[churchmouse]

Related from the RSO I relieved yesterday. Guy caught a freshly ejected piece of brass down his back and lodged below the belt line. Laid his pistol down and started dancing foot to foot saying, hot, hot, hot. After a few seconds of dancing stripped his pants down to his ankles to get the brass from his crack. One of those "hard to sell without pictures" stories but I have no doubt it happened.
On my watch I confronted a guy that had a small 380, slide closed pointing it at almost every part of HIS anatomy while he talked to the guy in the next stall. I said "I hope that isn't loaded since you are pointing it at yourself" His response still puzzles me, he said "as long as it's pointing at me it's pointed in a safe direction"? I requested that he place it on the firing line which he did. At that point he says to me, "what's the first rule of gun safety?" My response, always treat it like it's loaded. He responded, "that's right". Still trying to figure out what what was in his mind.

[FONT=&]NRA Life Member / [/FONT]Basic Pistol instructor[FONT=&] / RSO[/FONT][FONT=&]

[/FONT][FONT=&]"Under pressure, you don't rise to the occasion, you sink to the level of your training. That's why we train so hard" [/FONT][FONT=&]
[/FONT][FONT=&]Unnamed Navy Seal[/FONT][FONT=&]

[/FONT][FONT=&]“Ego is the reason many men do not shoot competition. They don't want to suck in public” [/FONT][FONT=&]
[/FONT][FONT=&]
[/FONT][FONT=&]Aron Bright[/FONT]

My response to his comment about it being pointed in a safe direction would be.........No it is not. If you shoot yourself I have to deal with the mess. You might be dead and the range has to deal with that mess. The press would be hurtful to us all. Wise up and put the gun down.

 

[Trigger Time]

NHT3, these stories always put a smile on my face
Sorry you have to go through it for real though so I can read about it and laugh lol

 

[actaeon277]

My response to his comment about it being pointed in a safe direction would be.........No it is not. If you shoot yourself I have to deal with the mess. You might be dead and the range has to deal with that mess. The press would be hurtful to us all. Wise up and put the gun down.

 

[NHT3]

My response to his comment about it being pointed in a safe direction would be.........No it is not. If you shoot yourself I have to deal with the mess. You might be dead and the range has to deal with that mess. The press would be hurtful to us all. Wise up and put the gun down.

I did tell him I didn't want bloodshed on my watch but he just gave me a blank look. Ignorance can be addressed and rectified but stuck on stupid is just that. As I've said before at least 70% of the people I see don't have enough firearms knowledge to safely handle a firearm. 90% of pistol shooters can't reliably hit a 12" circle at 7 yards. Still most feel they have sufficient knowledge and skill so have no need for ANY sort of training.

 

[jsharmon7]

I did tell him I didn't want bloodshed on my watch but he just gave me a blank look. Ignorance can be addressed and rectified but stuck on stupid is just that. As I've said before at least 70% of the people I see don't have enough firearms knowledge safely handle a firearm. 90% of pistol shooters can't reliably hit a 12" circle at 7 yards. Still most feel they have sufficient knowledge and skill so have no need for ANY sort of training.

I’ve always considered myself a below-average marksman with a pistol, so this makes me feel a little better in a “not THAT bad” kinda way.

 

[rhino]

I’ve always considered myself a below-average marksman with a pistol, so this makes me feel a little better in a “not THAT bad” kinda way.

My whole life has been about not sucking as badly as the other people who suck at the activity in question.

 

[Jackson]

Sometimes when I'm at the range I see people shooting poorly, or worse teaching someone else to shoot poorly, and I think "if I just went over there and told them a few things it would result in considerable improvement." Then I realize I can't shoot worth crap anymore either and I get back in my stall and go to work, putting my focus where it should be.

 

[jsharmon7]

My whole life has been about not sucking as badly as the other people who suck at the activity in question.

I try to be realistic when setting goals. I will never be submitting a highlight reel for “Top Shot,” so I try for “Good...for Me.”

 

[rhino]

I try to be realistic when setting goals. I will never be submitting a highlight reel for “Top Shot,” so I try for “Good...for Me.”

We are part of the BoM: Brotherhood of Mediocrity.

 

[rosejm]

I’ve always considered myself a below-average marksman with a pistol, so this makes me feel a little better in a “not THAT bad” kinda way.

You need to get out a bit more often, then.
Usually when mixing with the general public, the only shooters around are myself and whoever came with me. The rest of 'em are just as likely to strike a baffle/wall than the target (and I mean the WHOLE target including the holder, not just the black).

 

[Tactically Fat]

We are part of the BoM: Brotherhood of Mediocrity.

I think I'm somehow in this Brotherhood, but I just can't be bothered to determine for sure.