Romney...oh Romney

[zippy23]

Who cares about his money? They got rich illegally and then made people believe they were honest business people. Trump is nothing more than a hate monger who is fooling the weak minded into believing he sees them as his equal. He will get their vote and then throw them all in the same boat as the others he hates. Yeah, he may build a wall, but he will tear down the country. It's truly sad to know that people will condem a "RINO," but give total support to someone like Trump. I still have not figured out how he is seen as a conservative Republican.

Trump isnt seen as a conservative republican. He's seen as NOT a washington republican or democrat. At this point he's said a few things that resonate huge with people. Build a wall and make deals that help this country. Pause immigration from countries that hate us that ISIS admits they'll use to get here. These few things are enough for many people. They see obama and the dems wrecking this country and they see the republican party helping them and not standing in the way of this insanity. SO......whose the only choice up there that is NOT part of this problem? They see trump and Cruz. gee the two leading right now. We see each party and the media hating Trump and Cruz and thats a badge of honor at this point. It makes perfect sense that trump is leading.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Trump isnt seen as a conservative republican. He's seen as NOT a washington republican or democrat. At this point he's said a few things that resonate huge with people. Build a wall and make deals that help this country. Pause immigration from countries that hate us that ISIS admits they'll use to get here. These few things are enough for many people. They see obama and the dems wrecking this country and they see the republican party helping them and not standing in the way of this insanity. SO......whose the only choice up there that is NOT part of this problem? They see trump and Cruz. gee the two leading right now. We see each party and the media hating Trump and Cruz and thats a badge of honor at this point. It makes perfect sense that trump is leading.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to zippy23 again.

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[zippy23]

Trump was given some money. Yup. What did he do? Did he win the lottery then go broke and kill himself with drugs a year later? UH NO, he made more money. He built buildings, golf courses, a business empire. Tell me does it take more responsibility to inherit a million bucks and then invest your time and work into building that, or just inherit the money and go crazy cuz you are rich? People trash him cuz trump vodka failed.......what is the fail rate of businesses? And did trump just go home and drink himself silly or quit? NOPE. he kept trying. He's not my first choice but holy crap the guy is successful, no matter how much you dont want him to be. And notice that they biggest claim they have on trump? He's a racist. That right there shows they have nothing, NOTHING on trump. This is what fools do, when you cant debate with facts, you change to trash talking. Racism is the only thing the democrats have to shut someone up, yet trump aint backing down. He's got more cahonies than 99% of the republican politicians.

 

[BugI02]

I thought Robio said Obama wasn't stupid.

No, he said:
"Obama knows exactly what he is doing ..."
"Obama knows exactly what he is doing ..."
"Obama knows exactly what he is doing ..."
"Obama knows exactly what he is doing ..."

 

[Que]

Trump isnt seen as a conservative republican. He's seen as NOT a washington republican or democrat. At this point he's said a few things that resonate huge with people. Build a wall and make deals that help this country. Pause immigration from countries that hate us that ISIS admits they'll use to get here. These few things are enough for many people. They see obama and the dems wrecking this country and they see the republican party helping them and not standing in the way of this insanity. SO......whose the only choice up there that is NOT part of this problem? They see trump and Cruz. gee the two leading right now. We see each party and the media hating Trump and Cruz and thats a badge of honor at this point. It makes perfect sense that trump is leading.

If he said everything the way you said it, I would be wearing one of his $25 caps. I certainly get your point and I do see why some people are attracted to him, but I also know why some others are, too.

 

[Jludo]

Trump was given some money. Yup. What did he do? Did he win the lottery then go broke and kill himself with drugs a year later? UH NO, he made more money. He built buildings, golf courses, a business empire. Tell me does it take more responsibility to inherit a million bucks and then invest your time and work into building that, or just inherit the money and go crazy cuz you are rich? People trash him cuz trump vodka failed.......what is the fail rate of businesses? And did trump just go home and drink himself silly or quit? NOPE. he kept trying. He's not my first choice but holy crap the guy is successful, no matter how much you dont want him to be. And notice that they biggest claim they have on trump? He's a racist. That right there shows they have nothing, NOTHING on trump. This is what fools do, when you cant debate with facts, you change to trash talking. Racism is the only thing the democrats have to shut someone up, yet trump aint backing down. He's got more cahonies than 99% of the republican politicians.

It was much more than a million dollars, it was an entire already successful real estate company. I don't argue he isn't successful, he can afford to upgrade to a younger model wife every decade or so, I argue he's by no means self made. He didn't take a 'small loan' and turn it into a real estate empire.
He's a sleeze, his contributions to society include Trump university, cheap ugly Trump clothing, multiple bankrupted companies, lawsuits, eminent domain, an awful reality tv show.

Just because he built a lot of gaudy casinos and played the crony capitalist to a T does not mean he deserves any ones respect. He's a scumbag through and through, willing to say or do anything to make a buck or to promote his own ugly mug.

 

[ArmedProgrammer]

I have come to wonder if Obama is truly a self-made asshat. Seriously, could anyone really become some stupid, destructive, and arrogant without help?

It takes a village....

 

[AA&E]

I am glad he pointed out something which I think has been vastly understated for the duration of this campaign, that Trump inherited his wealth and his company. He is in no way a brilliant self made businessman.

You mean like Obama and his Nobel Prize? Or for that matter, Obama and his anything his whole life?

You don't see the irony of that coming from a trust fund baby like Mitt Romney?

 

[jamil]

You don't see the irony of that coming from a trust fund baby like Mitt Romney?

Or, more like it takes one to know one.

 

[eatsnopaste]

No offense Que, but it just doesn't look like you can have a reasonable conversation about Mr Trump.. So I'm out..

LOL..name one thing Trump has been for or against that he hasn't changed his mind on. This is the kind of thing he says, over and over...nothing of substance other than..ME< ME< ME<

 

[spec4]

It was much more than a million dollars, it was an entire already successful real estate company. I don't argue he isn't successful, he can afford to upgrade to a younger model wife every decade or so, I argue he's by no means self made. He didn't take a 'small loan' and turn it into a real estate empire.
He's a sleeze, his contributions to society include Trump university, cheap ugly Trump clothing, multiple bankrupted companies, lawsuits, eminent domain, an awful reality tv show.

Just because he built a lot of gaudy casinos and played the crony capitalist to a T does not mean he deserves any ones respect. He's a scumbag through and through, willing to say or do anything to make a buck or to promote his own ugly mug.

So if we can stipulate that Trump doesn't always take the high road and had a lot of help getting rich, can we also stipulate Hillary is a criminal who would be a public defender in Chicago if not for her marriage to Bubba?

 

[Twangbanger]

Or, more like it takes one to know one.

Or, more like...there's inherently nothing wrong with it. (Until somebody tries to do it with their own money).

 

[Que]

Trump's money doesn't matter in any way, unless he's done something illegal to accumulate it. His money doesn't qualify or disqualify him for the position of President. I don't like the man, but I won't criticize him without cause. We have experienced this for the last eight years. He is an ABSOLUTE FAILURE as a communicator and only tries to reach people as the lowest level of social consciousness. I believe anything more is beyond his ability.

 

[Jludo]

You don't see the irony of that coming from a trust fund baby like Mitt Romney?

Yea it's ironic, no one likes Mitt either but someone had to point it out

 

[jamil]

Trump's money doesn't matter in any way, unless he's done something illegal to accumulate it. His money doesn't qualify or disqualify him for the position of President. I don't like the man, but I won't criticize him without cause. We have experienced this for the last eight years. He is an ABSOLUTE FAILURE as a communicator and only tries to reach people as the lowest level of social consciousness. I believe anything more is beyond his ability.

The only reason it should matter how Trump gained his wealth is if they believe the way he made his wealth makes him especially qualified to be President. Conservatives especially like candidates who they think exemplify self-made success. Many people have said they like that Trump is a self-made billionaire. If that's not true, then it's important to point out the contrary to those who think he is.

 

[Kutnupe14]

This thread is exactly what the Establishment wants: for the "Trump Phenomenon" to be discussed and dismissed in purely racial terms. It's the easiest way to get rid of it. It's understandable that some Black folks will take the bait on this. The Establishment will be happy to rip that scab of historical resentment off them, salt up their wounds real good, and encourage them to show up at the Trump rallies to protest like good little sheeple. But the rest of us should know better. There are ECONOMIC ideas at stake here, which the Establishment does not want discussed. They want this dismissed as racism, and dropped. Don't take the bait. Even if you think Trump is the worst racist this side of Hitler, there is something much more important to be gleaned from this.

What is it? Look at the video of the Carrier official telling his workers they're moving the plants to Mexico. See how many Black faces are in that room? That's a far worse threat to Black (and White) America, in my opinion, than anything Trump has said about Muslims. (Your mileage may of course vary). Hillary has already changed her position on the Trans-Pacific Partnership as a result of the economic attack Trump and Bernie are presenting. Do you see any evidence the Republican Party is "getting" this? As usual, the Democrats will learn from this and emerge as a stronger coalition. The Republicans will stand around with their Donors' thumbs up their azzes, wondering what happened. The Trump people will disappear back into the shadows, showing up to vote Democrat if they even vote at all, a possible electoral advantage squandered.

Establishment a-holes send jobs to Mexico, while dismissing Trump as racist...and here we are, taking the bait. As usual, we're allegorically carrying our .45 looking for the Bad Guy...and the bad guy is on the computer stealing our credit card info.

You clearly have bought into the divisiveness of Trump. You completely ignore that the backlash against Trump, as evidenced at many of his rallies, go beyond being black. Whites, Blacks, Hispanics, and people from a variety of differing groups have voiced their opposition to Trump. You then double down on your divisive drivel, by separating America into two parts "Black" and "White," ...never mind the fact that there are other people that would probably take exception to your exclusion. My America has no such qualifications. Your and Trump's "America" apparently needs to point out the differences.

And I'm still trying to wrap my head around your Trump - Hitler comparison, because it sure does sound like your pushing forward the idea if Trump was actually similar to Hitler, and the leader of our nation, we should not worry about it as much as we should our economy.... yeah, 'cause that EXACT thing didn't go down in Germany.

Lol, "Got History?"

Kut (is baffled and amazed)

 

[Twangbanger]

Trump is not now, nor will he ever be, the leader of this Nation. Hillary Clinton, a likely felon, will be. So I guess I'm able to dissect his ramblings in a dispassionate way other more sensitive individuals are not capable of. I'm not interested in what I consider to be the rather meager racial overtones of him. I'm more interested in the policy buttons he's pushing, that "the beehive" ignores. Because it's that inattention that will allow people like him to gather steam.

I want him gone. But I want him gone for the right reasons. Not because he's been shouted down as a "racist." But because the legitimate issues he raises have been addressed. If you keep addressing him only as a racial figure, those powerful issues get swept under the rug. And his power increases, because his followers, rightly or wrongly, get the idea "PC" has trumped (!) the issues, again.

The race component of this is a distraction. If you fail to grasp that, you will only empower him. People are sick of this. They want the issues addressed. And you're just going to have to accept that "race" isn't it.

 

[Jludo]

So if we can stipulate that Trump doesn't always take the high road and had a lot of help getting rich, can we also stipulate Hillary is a criminal who would be a public defender in Chicago if not for her marriage to Bubba?

Yea say whatever you want about Hilary, point is republicans have to put up someone to beat her, every poll says trump is not that person, on top of the mountain of other reasons trump should be the nominee.

 

[edporch]

Trump and Romney.
Both with the track record of northeastern liberals who think we're dumb enough to believe they're NOW "conservative".
I would never vote for or trust either of them.

Our 2nd Amendment rights are not safe with them.

 

[jd4320t]

It's a sad day on INGO when I see all these Hillary supporters.