Problems with Evansville PD

[goinggreyfast]

...Tell them you want her completed and signed application to send to the ISP and if they don't you will file a lawsuit.

Wow, the city lawyers must work for cheap cause they really don't seem to mind stacking up lawsuits from local citizens.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Wow, the city lawyers must work for cheap cause they really don't seem to mind stacking up lawsuits from local citizens.

You wouldn't believe how these idiots p**s away money.

 

[revance]

The ISP doesn't care what EPD says about her citizenship status.

If the ISP is concerned about her citizenship, do you really think they are going to consult the EPD about it? No, they will verify it themselves, that is THEIR job!

The only thing they want from EPD is whether or not she has a police history in Eville. That's a BS story they are using to back peddle trying to fool her into not getting a license. Complying with them will not speed up the process.


To give you an idea of how it SHOULD work, my sheriffs office fills the forms out, fingerprints you, and sends you out the door with your application. None of this "come back later so we can infringe on your rights" BS!

This crap makes me so angry! We need to do it like Utah, 100% privatized. You just mail the stuff to the SP.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

The ISP doesn't care what EPD says about her citizenship status.

If the ISP is concerned about her citizenship, do you really think they are going to consult the EPD about it? No, they will verify it themselves, that is THEIR job!

The only thing they want from EPD is whether or not she has a police history in Eville. That's a BS story they are using to back peddle trying to fool her into not getting a license. Complying with them will not speed up the process.


To give you an idea of how it SHOULD work, my sheriffs office fills the forms out, fingerprints you, and sends you out the door with your application. None of this "come back later so we can infringe on your rights" BS!

This crap makes me so angry! We need to do it like Utah, 100% privatized. You just mail the stuff to the SP.

Gotta disagree there... If we change ANYTHING it should be do away with the requirement and leave the LTCH for reciprocity ONLY.

Indiana should have Constitutional Carry ASAP.

 

[HeadlessRoland]

You wouldn't believe how these idiots p**s away money.

Oh lawdy, you wouldn't believe.

I really wish they'd stop giving my tax money away, but as they insist on doing illegal things... time to move, soon.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Oh lawdy, you wouldn't believe.

I really wish they'd stop giving my tax money away, but as they insist on doing illegal things... time to move, soon.

Well, you would both know and believe! I can't believe that both past and present mayors, the city council, and most of GAGE aren't in or on the way to jail by now. Never mind the Toilet Bowl (at least that is how it appears from above), or as a friend put it, the Edsel Center.

 

[revance]

Gotta disagree there... If we change ANYTHING it should be do away with the requirement and leave the LTCH for reciprocity ONLY.

Indiana should have Constitutional Carry ASAP.

That is fine, but still switch to Utahs system. With Const. carry, then people might not complain about the 3 hour class. More states would honor it and it's easier than most the crap these local LEAs make people do.

It's a winning combo.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

That is fine, but still switch to Utahs system. With Const. carry, then people might not complain about the 3 hour class. More states would honor it and it's easier than most the crap these local LEAs make people do.

It's a winning combo.

Constitutional Carry plus training requirement permit for reciprocity. I can get down with that.

 

[AndersonIN]

Constitutional Carry plus training requirement permit for reciprocity. I can get down with that.

For those that want to stick to NOT requiring classes how about that's fine but no RECIPROCITY???? Just a thought.

 

[Colinb913]

Tell them you want her completed and signed application to send to the ISP and if they don't you will file a lawsuit.

Can I do that? Or will they just "accidentally lose" her application?

 

[revance]

My point is the 3 hour class Utah requires is completely private and you don't mess with LE at all. It is much easier than what most Hoosiers currently have to do. Making multiple trips to the office between 9-4, making appointments with the chief so you can justify yourself, and other nonsense. I'd rather have a 3 hr class on Sat that doesn't involve the local LE.

 

[thebishopp]

Can I do that? Or will they just "accidentally lose" her application?

Make an appointment and talk to the Chief so that he can look into this.

 

[revance]

Can I do that? Or will they just "accidentally lose" her application?

I'm not sure how online applications work, but if it's a regular one, YOU mail it in. They just sign it and make the prints for you.

 

[Colinb913]

We did the online for her, they had a copy at the EPD, and asked her to fill out another form, for their records. I never had to do any of that, but I got mine done at Warrick Sheriffs office.

We complied with all of that, and I expected that would be the end of it. Then all this happened.

 

[revance]

It's all BS Eville is making up to screw with people. Nothing has changed since you did it. WC Sheriff just isn't a DB.

 

[Colinb913]

I really feel her age (18, and I am 19) have a lot to do with all this. The first lady I spoke with (not the one that handles gun permits, the secretary) was apparently caught up with the story, and even asked me, "Isn't she 18?"

That conversation went like this..

M: Can I speak with whoever is in charge of handgun licenses?
H: Sure, what is this regarding?
M: Emily Killians LTCH.
H: Oh yes, one moment.
Picks up the phone and is waiting for a answer.
H: Isn't she only 18?
M:Yes

Waited, and the lady that handles the licensing came out. I guess I just didn't think that conversation was important enough to put in the first post, since she's just a secretary, but now that I think about it, I figured I'd throw that out here too.

First post edited.

 

[revance]

Ding ding ding! And THAT is the real reason behind all this!

 

[Colinb913]

Ding ding ding! And THAT is the real reason behind all this!

The age thing? After talking to a few older, and very wiser men than I at work, they decided that since she's 18, they see her as a "easy target" to get by..

 

[Titanium_Frost]

For those that want to stick to NOT requiring classes how about that's fine but no RECIPROCITY???? Just a thought.

Exactly my point, no license REQUIRED for OC/CC in Indiana but we offer a better, improved license for reciprocity reasons just like Arizona.

We did the online for her, they had a copy at the EPD, and asked her to fill out another form, for their records. I never had to do any of that, but I got mine done at Warrick Sheriffs office.

We complied with all of that, and I expected that would be the end of it. Then all this happened.

If you did L1 online there is nothing for you to fill out at EPD besides prints and then you mail everything in.

 

[revance]

Exactly my point, no license REQUIRED for OC/CC in Indiana but we offer a better, improved license for reciprocity reasons just like Arizona.



If you did L1 online there is nothing for you to fill out at EPD besides prints and then you mail everything in.

No, you see Eville adds its own paperwork and requirements. Because they suck. They obviously thought they could fool a stupid 18 year old with the country of birth BS.

I would just demand the signed application. They are required by law to give it to you.