Politically motivated violence thread

[KG1]

What I don't get is, why plan and orchestrate a fake attack?


Racism and homophobia are sooooooo rampant, MAGA supporters are sooooooo violent and intolerant, he should have just been able to walk around ANYWHERE and be viciously attacked within minutes.

Oh you mean like when MAGA supporters walk up to someone they disagree with on a college campus and start punching them?

 

[T.Lex]

What's sad is this will probably be his lawyer's argument.

Saw last night he added Mark Geragos to his legal team.

Which means there won't be much argument, but a great deal of table-pounding.

 

[SwikLS]

Why extend respect to those that don't respect you? That's just silly.

Because Michelle Obama said "when they go low, we go high"? *crickets* *crickets*

Edit: I suppose I should put that quote in context though. That was when she and every other Democrat thought Hillary was going to win. Because certainly since the election they have done anything but "go high".

 

[jamil]

Nope, its not. And it won't ever happen so long as each side villifies the other. Harris and Waters aren't respected by the "MAGA hat wearing crowd," so I repeat, why should they extend respect to those that don't respect them. That IS silly.

A bridge has to go from one side to the other. Could start from either side. Harris and especially Waters, and really the entire left earned the disrespect for how they treat them from the start. The assigned unearned, undeserved labels of racists, bigots, fascists, literally Hitler. Maybe try to be honest about the people you oppose and maybe they won’t be so disrespectful. Trumpers didn’t start that ****.

If you disagree with them, fine. I disagree with them on that emergency powers nonsense. But smear them constantly, lie about their motives, accuse them of behaviors not manifest, advocate people harass them in public, punch them and all that stuff, yeah. Harris and Waters and the rest of the left cabal owe a big ***damn apology. And that could help heal the nation.

Trumpers don’t owe Harris, Waters or any of the leftist **********s an apology because the disrespect was earned.

 

[KG1]

A bridge has to go from one side to the other. Could start from either side. Harris and especially Waters, and really the entire left earned the disrespect for how they treat them from the start. The assigned unearned, undeserved labels of racists, bigots, fascists, literally Hitler. Maybe try to be honest about the people you oppose and maybe they won’t be so disrespectful. Trumpers didn’t start that ****.

If you disagree with them, fine. I disagree with them on that emergency powers nonsense. But smear them constantly, lie about their motives, accuse them of behaviors not manifest, advocate people harass them in public, punch them and all that stuff, yeah. Harris and Waters and the rest of the left cabal owe a big ***damn apology. And that could help heal the nation.

Trumpers don’t owe Harris, Waters or any of the leftist **********s an apology because the disrespect was earned.

"Nation healing" is not en vogue these days.

 

[T.Lex]

In other news... or not in the news... while regurgitating Smollett's attorney's statement that the actor has "impeccable character," I still haven't seen mention in the MSM of his prior conviction.

How bizarre.

 

[KG1]

In other news... or not in the news... while regurgitating Smollett's attorney's statement that the actor has "impeccable character," I still haven't seen mention in the MSM of his prior conviction.

How bizarre.

Well I guess supplying false information claiming to be your brother in a DWI incident classifies as an example of "impeccable character" IDK.

 

[printcraft]

In other news... or not in the news... while regurgitating Smollett's attorney's statement that the actor has "impeccable character," I still haven't seen mention in the MSM of his prior conviction.

How telling.

FTFY

Fellow travelers don't out each other like that, it makes their side look bad.
Yes, the MSM has a side.

 

[Doug]

Respect and reaching across the aisle could do much, but it only goes one way.

President Trump had more Democrat congressmen in the White House to discuss legislation in the first few months of his administration than President Obama did in the first two years of his. Obama had none because he didn't need them with his Democrat majority. Trump reached across the aisle and tried to work with both parties.

Prior to the last shutdown, Trump sent proposals to congress which were rejected by Schumer and Pelosi before they were delivered or read. They were so focused on a shutdown they could blame on Trump that they wouldn't even consider a compromise.

The Left and most of the media are so committed to hatred and demonization of Trump that a ball cap is now considered as racist as a Klan hood. Imagine if the media claimed a Kamala Harris bumper sticker was the same as a "Kill Whitey" sign.

The media and the Democrats seem to see the country as Virtuous Socialists and Hateful Racists and I am sick of their prejudice.

 

[Ziggidy]

Why should they apologize to MAGA hat wearing folks? Did they make some comment specifically related to that group, or did they simply condemn the attack?

He specified the MAGA group, he specified white folk, he specified those who do not embrace homosexuality and those who support Trump. He specifically targeted these 4 groups (possibly more) through this thought out, calculated effort. Not only did the bogus attack reflect his HATRED and willingness to in essence attack these groups, but he also sent himself a bogus hate letter referencing the same. Not to mention his letter had a white substance that he put in there to add to the made up threat.

Those actions actually should be considered a hate crime in itself.

 

[Ziggidy]

Why extend respect to those that don't respect you? That's just silly.

That works both ways. Suggesting that, there is no such thing as a hate crime (which is ok with me); however, we need to be consistent if we are to have that category of crime.

An apology would be in place simply because he targeted a few groups. He does not have to respect the ideologies but he shoud respect their right to own those ideologies. His actions placed those groups in danger. He should feel remorse for that......otherwise he is a hypocrite.

 

[T.Lex]

If Liam Neeson was expected to apologize for sharing his honest, racially-charged emotions, it seems to me that Smollett should be expected to apologize for his fake, racially charged emotions.

 

[Ziggidy]

Nope, its not. And it won't ever happen so long as each side villifies the other. Harris and Waters aren't respected by the "MAGA hat wearing crowd," so I repeat, why should they extend respect to those that don't respect them. That IS silly.

Maybe because they are SUPPOSED to be leaders? I know it's difficult to imagine either one being a leader..........

 

[Ziggidy]

If Liam Neeson was expected to apologize for sharing his honest, racially-charged emotions, it seems to me that Smollett should be expected to apologize for his fake, racially charged emotions.

He should be fired and blackballed from Hollywood. What he did was by far, worse than what Roseanne Barr said. There have been others, but this Gay, Black, ant-trump criminal who incites hatred and violence, falsifies police records and conspires to character assassinate 4 groups.....well, ok.....

.....he just wanted a bigger raise; so I guess it's ok.

 

[Kutnupe14]

If Liam Neeson was expected to apologize for sharing his honest, racially-charged emotions, it seems to me that Smollett should be expected to apologize for his fake, racially charged emotions.

Wait are we talking about Smollett apologizing? I thought people were saying Harris and Waters. Smollet should apologize, Liam should not.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Maybe because they are SUPPOSED to be leaders? I know it's difficult to imagine either one being a leader..........

I'd take the above as an honest notion if those who support the president held him to the same scrutiny. But alas, that's certainly not the case.

 

[DangerousDave]

He was already being paid $100,000 an episode, and was scheduled to be in 8 episodes. What more did he want?

 

[HoughMade]

Saw last night he added Mark Geragos to his legal team.

Which means there won't be much argument, but a great deal of table-pounding.

I listen to Adam Carolla's and Mark Geragos' podcast. Geragos gives a solid, objective analysis to cases....that he is not involved in. The difference between his "analyst" posture and "advocate" posture is so stark as to be funny.

...but make no mistake. He's good at what he does.

 

[KG1]

Wait are we talking about Smollett apologizing? I thought people were saying Harris and Waters. Smollet should apologize, Liam should not.

I agree with this. Some should apologize and take responsibility for their own actions and others should acknowledge when they were wrong for defending the questionable action of others.

 

[T.Lex]

Wait are we talking about Smollett apologizing? I thought people were saying Harris and Waters. Smollet should apologize, Liam should not.

Ah, right.

I think Harris, Waters, and many others, should apologize for continuing Jesse Jackson's business model of leveraging racial issues. (Well, Waters was an early adopter of the business model.)

But I didn't pay enough attention to what they actually said to have an opinion about whether they have something specific to apologize for.