Politically motivated violence thread

[T.Lex]

I don't think you can evoke the "KKK" and not be racial.

That's what's kinda interesting (to me). He invokes the KKK and what they did (even with the REALLY strange assertion that some black people would dress up like KKK to do stuff), but then what he advocates they should do - in mimicking the KKK - has nothing to do with race. He urges a quixotic attack on socialist-communist liberals. Other than the KKK, I don't think there was any mention of race.

(Yeah, I know that sounds alot like, "Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

 

[T.Lex]

So there I was, thinking it was a good job by law enforcement to figure out that Jussie wasn't being truthful about the things he said happened. Even going on tv and telling people earnestly his view of what happened. Even here, it seems like people were happy that he was getting busted.

Then something occurred to me.

The police were presented with credible evidence of a crime - complaining witness, physical injuries, objective evidence that supported the victim's story. But then, in pursuing the investigation, they found evidence of a DIFFERENT crime. Maybe a couple different ones.

In another thread, that seems like a problem. That if an investigation is launched for one thing, then it can't really look at other things.

It'd be a shame for Jussie to escape punishment because there was some sort of extension of the investigation.

(Another irony is that the criminal justice system - even in Chicago - appears to have been immune to MSM influence. Shocking.)

 

[DoggyDaddy]

So there I was, thinking it was a good job by law enforcement to figure out that Jussie wasn't being truthful about the things he said happened. Even going on tv and telling people earnestly his view of what happened. Even here, it seems like people were happy that he was getting busted.

Then something occurred to me.

The police were presented with credible evidence of a crime - complaining witness, physical injuries, objective evidence that supported the victim's story. But then, in pursuing the investigation, they found evidence of a DIFFERENT crime. Maybe a couple different ones.

In another thread, that seems like a problem. That if an investigation is launched for one thing, then it can't really look at other things.

It'd be a shame for Jussie to escape punishment because there was some sort of extension of the investigation.

(Another irony is that the criminal justice system - even in Chicago - appears to have been immune to MSM influence. Shocking.)

Except it wasn't a different incident. The only thing that changed was that the "victim" turned out to be the perpetrator. Come to think of it, since the DNC paid for the Steele dossier which started the whole Mueller investigation, maybe you're right. But, to make the analogy you're trying to make, Mueller would have to find out that somebody from the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to elect Obama (or Bush, or Bill Clinton, or... you see where I'm going). I suppose it could also work if, in the course of the Smollett investigation, they cited Subway for health code violations. That would be more similar to what has been going on with Mueller.

 

[T.Lex]

Except it wasn't a different incident. The only thing that changed was that the "victim" turned out to be the perpetrator. Come to think of it, since the DNC paid for the Steele dossier which started the whole Mueller investigation, maybe you're right. But, to make the analogy you're trying to make, Mueller would have to find out that somebody from the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to elect Obama (or Bush, or Bill Clinton, or... you see where I'm going). I suppose it could also work if, in the course of the Smollett investigation, they cited Subway for health code violations. That would be more similar to what has been going on with Mueller.

Its a process thing.

You're absolutely right, if they'd found a code violation in the Subway, or that the brothers stole the gear, or that one of the places that provided video had child porn, all of that would've been fair game.

Just highlighting that a law enforcement investigation is a process. There's no way to predict what will turn up. Now, most of the time it is pretty straightforward. But, the more complex the crime, the more evidence can reveal other crimes.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Never thought I'd hear this from any MSM journalist, let alone one from NBC, but Willie Geist just said (admitted) that "we" (meaning MSM) really need to think twice before presenting what we think (want to believe) is true before all the facts come in. Between the Covington kids and now the Smollett case it's really shining a light on the agenda (propaganda) that is being spread by the media, both mainstream and social. It would be refreshing if some of them would finally come out and admit it. Willie's comment was probably as close to an admission as we'll get though.

 

[mmpsteve]

So there I was, thinking it was a good job by law enforcement to figure out that Jussie wasn't being truthful about the things he said happened. Even going on tv and telling people earnestly his view of what happened. Even here, it seems like people were happy that he was getting busted.

Then something occurred to me.

The police were presented with credible evidence of a crime - complaining witness, physical injuries, objective evidence that supported the victim's story. But then, in pursuing the investigation, they found evidence of a DIFFERENT crime. Maybe a couple different ones.

In another thread, that seems like a problem. That if an investigation is launched for one thing, then it can't really look at other things.

It'd be a shame for Jussie to escape punishment because there was some sort of extension of the investigation.

(Another irony is that the criminal justice system - even in Chicago - appears to have been immune to MSM influence. Shocking.)

You don't normally post total bull****. But I'm calling total bull**** on this one. Process crimes are not the same as conspiracy crimes. You know better, and you're smarter than that.

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[T.Lex]

You don't normally post total bull****. But I'm calling total bull**** on this one. Process crimes are not the same as conspiracy crimes. You know better, and you're smarter than that.

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Doesn't take smarts to see that investigations can start with one crime and lead to other crimes.

Wait.

Maybe it does.

 

[ghuns]

Oh boy...

Christopher Hasson: Coast Guardsman accused of plotting mass terror attack

 

[printcraft]

Doesn't take smarts to see that investigations can start with one crime and lead to other crimes.

Wait.

Maybe it does.

But here and elsewhere the original “crime” is a political fantasy.

 

[T.Lex]

But here and elsewhere the original “crime” is a political fantasy.

Maybe, but the subsequent ones appear legitimate.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Oh boy...

Christopher Hasson: Coast Guardsman accused of plotting mass terror attack

Scooped... https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...fficer-arrested-gun-charges-had-hit-list.html

 

[mmpsteve]

But here and elsewhere the original “crime” is a political fantasy.

Don't muck it up with facts. It confuses some peoples.

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[KG1]

But here and elsewhere the original “crime” is a political fantasy.

Maybe they need to be indicted for making up a “crime” out of political fantasy that lead to an investigation.

 

[mmpsteve]

Maybe they need to be indicted for making up a “crime” out of political fantasy that lead to an investigation.

I could get on board with this. Will be interesting to see what the new AG does.

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[jamil]

Never thought I'd hear this from any MSM journalist, let alone one from NBC, but Willie Geist just said (admitted) that "we" (meaning MSM) really need to think twice before presenting what we think (want to believe) is true before all the facts come in. Between the Covington kids and now the Smollett case it's really shining a light on the agenda (propaganda) that is being spread by the media, both mainstream and social. It would be refreshing if some of them would finally come out and admit it. Willie's comment was probably as close to an admission as we'll get though.

The problem is that the information bubbles create false perceptions. These people think they live in a world where the thing they believed was the most likely explanation.

 

[T.Lex]

My sense is that Willie Geist is more self-aware than many (most?) other MSM journos. I haven't really seen him much, but what I have seen makes me think that he is able to take a look at the media's role fairly objectively.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

My sense is that Willie Geist is more self-aware than many (most?) other MSM journos. I haven't really seen him much, but what I have seen makes me think that he is able to take a look at the media's role fairly objectively.

I don't know that I'd go quite that far. I've heard some real doozies come out of his mouth. And he bought into the whole Covington kid/Nathan Phillips thing hook, line and sinker. But he was definitely the odd man out today. The rest of the crew was "just heartbroken" that it has turned out (most likely) to have all been a hoax. Kind of morbid when you think about it... like they wanted him to have been the victim of a violent attack.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

You don't normally post total bull****. But I'm calling total bull**** on this one. Process crimes are not the same as conspiracy crimes. You know better, and you're smarter than that.

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... Care to elaborate on your angle?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

dude wrote a check

 

[JettaKnight]

Doesn't take smarts to see that investigations can start with one crime and lead to other crimes.

Wait.

Maybe it does.

It's like an episode of Law & Order!