Political funny pictures thread, part IV. Bring on the leather!

[nonobaddog]

I'm going to go against the grain on this one, not by way of excuse (far from), but explanation.

I'm thinking that in her community (and many, but certainly not all Muslim communities), the manner in which the Jewish people and Israel are discussed is so ingrained within them, that when she says these things, it is not a considered choice designed to offend. She simply assumes that the way she thinks and talks is the way it is and is confused when people take issues with what she knows to be Truth based upon all that hse has been taught and told since birth. She can't believe that other people don't see it this way.

...of course, ingrained antisemitism is still bigotry.

Bottom line is that sounds EXACTLY like an excuse.

 

[2A_Tom]

I have known people that their hate for Yankee's and ******* was so ingrained...

 

[HoughMade]

Bottom line is that sounds EXACTLY like an excuse.

Could define the word "excuse" as used in this sentence?

 

[jamil]

Could define the word "excuse" as used in this sentence?

I could see why people might think what you said is an attempt to diminish blame. If you intended to do that he has a point. If you’re merely offering an explanation without saying anything about blame, then it’s an explanation and not an excuse.

 

[HoughMade]

I fail to see how "ingrained antisemitism is still bigotry" could be misinterpreted.

We need to understand the mindset. I don't think many people do.

 

[jamil]

I fail to see how "ingrained antisemitism is still bigotry" could be misinterpreted.

We need to understand the mindset. I don't think many people do.

I thought it was an explanation.

 

[HoughMade]

I get it. I will plainly say, it's not an excuse.

However, there are many Muslim communities (I personally know it's not universal) where the assumptions about Jewish people that most people recognize as at least stereotypes and in many cases, slurs, are seen as "truth"...and why not say them?

-Money hungry
-Run Hollywood
-Divided loyalties
-Untrustworthy
-#1 goal- kill off Muslims
-etc., etc., etc...

These are not "slurs" in these places. It's not "hate speech". This is what they actually believe Jewish people are. Therefore, when you tell them they are using slurs, the "deer-in-the-headlights" look you get back that is not feigned.

It's like telling them the "sky is blue" is something they really shouldn't say. It does not compute.

 

[nonobaddog]

EXCUSE

That justification of their behavior is an excuse by definition.

noun
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/ikˈskyo͞os/

• 1.
  a reason or explanation put forward to defend or justify a fault or offense.
  
  
  
  
  
  

 

[HoughMade]

EXCUSE

That justification of their behavior is an excuse by definition.

nouns
/ikˈskyo͞os/

• 1.
  a reason or explanation put forward to defend or justify a fault or offense.

So we’re clear that “a reason or explanation” is not an excuse unless it is “put forward to defend or justify...”, right?

 

[nonobaddog]

You are saying their behavior is reasonable because their thinking is f****d up.
If it is reasonable it is justified, by definition of 'justify'.
Therefore the justification is an excuse, by definition of 'excuse'.

jus·ti·fy
/ˈjəstəˌfī/
verb
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• 1.
  show or prove to be right or reasonable.
  
  
  
  

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[jamil]

Uh, he said it was understandable, not reasonable.

 

[HoughMade]

I only explained a mindset. That is all. Nothing more.

 

[nonobaddog]

Like the hildebeest only explained why she lost.

 

[Hawkeye7br]

I'm going to go against the grain on this one, not by way of excuse (far from), but explanation.

I'm thinking that in her community (and many, but certainly not all Muslim communities), the manner in which the Jewish people and Israel are discussed is so ingrained within them, that when she says these things, it is not a considered choice designed to offend. She simply assumes that the way she thinks and talks is the way it is and is confused when people take issues with what she knows to be Truth based upon all that hse has been taught and told since birth. She can't believe that other people don't see it this way.

...of course, ingrained antisemitism is still bigotry.

I understand this logic. WE ALL should understand it, it was the logic that brought slavery to this country (and every other country on Earth) some 300 years ago. The difference is that with advancing civilization, we have learned that this ingrained culture deficiency is wrong, whereas she still believes bigotry & racism is normal and acceptable.

 

[red_zr24x4]

Pics? Anyone?
Had to scroll up to make sure I was in the political Funny PICTURE thread

 

[Route 45]

Arguing over definitions of words in the political funny pictures thread is retarded.

 

[Route 45]

 

[Route 45]

 

[Route 45]

 

[red_zr24x4]

This one made me chuckle