Open Carry Incident - Vincennes

[Kutnupe14]

Do you carry with a round chambered?

In my rifle, nope, in my handgun yes. So, I'll ask again, and please let's not answer a question with a question. Does that guy have a round chambered in his rifle?

 

[Kutnupe14]

Why should I have to wait for the need to arise to be able to carry a rifle? When will I know? Will there be a newspaper article? Will there be an announcement on the tv? Will you call me? There is always a need to defend ourselves. If I knew when I would need my firearm, I wouldn't need it because I would just avoid the situation.

So based on this, I can assume that you also OC a fire extinguisher as well? Fires are pretty random, hurt tons of people, and destory lots of property. The odds of you needing a fire extinguisher to protect life/property are much greater than the odds you needing a firearm in a particular instance.

-I'd like to take credit for the analogy but I'd seen it a while back

 

[bwframe]

...Big difference between a simile and stating someone IS something.

Wrong. You used the reference to the enemy to attempt to belittle and or shut up someone you disagreed with.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

I'm not even reading 27 pages of this... Was there a point to carrying a long gun into a restaurant? Did they serve really ****ty food to you last time? I mean, I know that McD's takes forever and often screws up orders but jeez, just go to the one on Hart St.

 

[Que]

I'm not even reading 27 pages of this... Was there a point to carrying a long gun into a restaurant? Did they serve really ****ty food to you last time? I mean, I know that McD's takes forever and often screws up orders but jeez, just go to the one on Hart St.

 

[SteveM4A1]

Wrong. You used the reference to the enemy to attempt to belittle and or shut up someone you disagreed with.

Nope.

 

[actaeon277]

So based on this, I can assume that you also OC a fire extinguisher as well? Fires are pretty random, hurt tons of people, and destory lots of property. The odds of you needing a fire extinguisher to protect life/property are much greater than the odds you needing a firearm in a particular instance.

-I'd like to take credit for the analogy but I'd seen it a while back

Fire Extinguishers are in most or all buildings I do business in.
When they start having pistols or rifles available, I might have to rethink my carry.

 

[stephen87]

In my rifle, nope, in my handgun yes. So, I'll ask again, and please let's not answer a question with a question. Does that guy have a round chambered in his rifle?

No clue if the gentleman had a round holstered, however, if it's my only firearm on my person, I am carrying with a round chambered. If you were ONLY carrying a rifle, no handgun, would you carry with a round chambered? You admit that your handgun has a round chambered, presumably since it is your main firearm?

So based on this, I can assume that you also OC a fire extinguisher as well? Fires are pretty random, hurt tons of people, and destory lots of property. The odds of you needing a fire extinguisher to protect life/property are much greater than the odds you needing a firearm in a particular instance.

-I'd like to take credit for the analogy but I'd seen it a while back

Nope, fire extinguishers are a bit bulky. I do see them in a lot of places though, does that make a difference? I do carry a first aid kit though, since I'm likely to most likely to come upon an injured person.

I'm not even reading 27 pages of this... Was there a point to carrying a long gun into a restaurant? Did they serve really ****ty food to you last time? I mean, I know that McD's takes forever and often screws up orders but jeez, just go to the one on Hart St.

OP states his reasoning for carrying the rifle was he has a LTCH but no handgun.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Uh-oh.... time to vacate the fread gais!

 

[Kutnupe14]

No clue if the gentleman had a round holstered, however, if it's my only firearm on my person, I am carrying with a round chambered. If you were ONLY carrying a rifle, no handgunm would you carry with a round chambered? You admit that your handgun has a round chambered, presumably since it is your main firearm?

Ok, so you only have a rifle, and you carry with a round chambered. In which fashion is this instrument of destruction being carried/slung?

 

[stephen87]

I would argue that is an expansion of rights, or restoration of rights to a group.
Would you then argue that the races have the right to mix, but you do not want to lose the right, so they shouldn't?

They still can mix, they just shouldn't show their affecting in public.

 

[stephen87]

Ok, so you only have a rifle, and you carry with a round chambered. In which fashion is this instrument of destruction being carried/slung?

However is comfortable for me and is still safe. Obviously it won't be at the low ready.

Or is there a socially acceptable response I should be looking for here? IWB? Under my jacket? Taped to my forehead?

 

[Cameramonkey]

So based on this, I can assume that you also OC a fire extinguisher as well? Fires are pretty random, hurt tons of people, and destory lots of property. The odds of you needing a fire extinguisher to protect life/property are much greater than the odds you needing a firearm in a particular instance.

-I'd like to take credit for the analogy but I'd seen it a while back

Going back to another member who said (paraphrasing) "the cops keep their ARs in the trunk until a serious threat is present" I guess I follow that analogy. I have two all-metal commercial grade FEs in my house, and one in my trunk at all times. (Why yes, I DO work for a life/safety company, why do you ask?)

I'm not even reading 27 pages of this... Was there a point to carrying a long gun into a restaurant? Did they serve really ****ty food to you last time? I mean, I know that McD's takes forever and often screws up orders but jeez, just go to the one on Hart St.

N00B. Go to your UserCP in the upper right, go to general settings, and change the "Number of Posts to Show Per Page:" to 40. Then you only have to sort through ~7 pages of arguments.

 

[Cameramonkey]

They still can mix, they just shouldn't show their affecting in public.

I dont think ugly people should procreate, so Im offended by you and your spouse holding hands and otherwise showing affection.

 

[88GT]

If the soccer moms are scared of it, the police are scared of it, and gunowners don't approve, we can go ala California and just make it illegal. What's the use of keeping it legal if it's something you can do but nobody thinks you should?

Problem is worse than that. We can't even do it.

.......I've said 'afore..........'OC'.......with some these dudes .......ain't nuth'n more'na a sausage wagg'n contest.......

then how do you explain my choice to OC?

No hate here....just common sense. Do you not see this????

No. I don't see how allowing a legal act to be prohibited by LE is common sense.

The open carry hand guns is one thing, but the rifle? To me, unless there is a serious case of civil unrest going on from coast to coast, I think that was just a tad over the top. But, to each his own.

What's the difference?

If we do not police "our own" through education and opinion then public opinion will have the state of Indiana doing it through law changes that none of us want.

BS. This is about controlling other people. Instead of working on changing public opinion, some would prefer to let public opinion change us. No thanks.

The difference is modesty. In a cultured intelligent society, reasonable modesty preferrable. What's the differnce between a beach bikini, and lingerie bikini? Essentailly nothing... but one is less modest than the other.

There is no difference in either bikini.

Just not really sure what this accomplishes... I would hate to live in society where carrying an AR was normal.

.
Because living in one where people are afraid of them and a legal behavior is prohibited by force is better?

I would love to live in a society where it's normal for everyone to carry whatever they feel the most comfortable using whether it was a handgun or rifle.

That'll never happen if we keep telling the ones who want to do it to stop.

 

[HeadlessRoland]

???? what are these rights ????
I'm a believer, but don't believe that phrase. There are no religious component to rights.

Whatever. Innate, then.

 

[Cameramonkey]

then how do you explain my choice to OC?

Your sausage is larger than the "average" (inept) American's?

 

[stephen87]

I dont think ugly people should procreate, so Im offended by you and your spouse holding hands and otherwise showing affection.

I would be upset by that, but I don't think she's THAT bad looking.

 

[tbhausen]

Suppose we all decide to start carrying long guns into public restaurants. What do you all think will ultimately happen? How long will it take? Will it be a net gain or loss of rights?

Can't be a gain, of course, because we already have the right to do so. Do we want to keep it? Or should we run the risk of trying to normalize the behavior in hopes of desensitizing the public? I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to know how that would turn out.

 

[jbombelli]

If for whatever reason you don't exercise your rights, two things happen: 1) you make it easier for people to legislate them away because, hey... nobody exercises them anyway, and 2) you won't miss them when they're gone.