Official Trump Attempted Assassination at his Rally Thread

[Destro]

Lack of the ability to safely and blindly reholster screams no muscle memory/lack of training. If she hasn't trained enough to know her badge from her holster I seriously doubt her abilities putting aimed rounds down range. DEI is going to get people killed if it hasn't already and if it continues it's going to be the bane of our country.

It is dignitary protection, everyone has an assigned role. Without knowing what each persons role was, it is just speculation to point to specific individuals and claim they acted appropriately or inappropriately.

 

[foszoe]

Is this what you were talking about? Seriously?

 

[bwframe]

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Wow great that this liberal nut job has been exposed.

Hopefully, the FBI has him on their radar. He could be the next mentally challenged loon with a rifle...

Apparently, this loon has zero regard for a fellow firefighter. one would think there would be some brotherly fellowship there?

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[HoughMade]

I am just glad Pat found work post SnL.

She's an easy target. I get it. I mean, it appears that nothing she did or did not do had anything with Pres. Trump or anyone else being shot. A crowd is pressing in at an emergent moment and she and other agents are scanning the crowd...but sure, they must be incompetent...I mean, they are women.

I agree that there appears to have been a SS and security failure- no doubt. But are we interested in whose failure that was or have we found a DEI drum to beat and facts be damned?

Is there a DEI problem in the SS? Sure could be, but we have no idea whether that had anything to do with this. As for the single frame "hiding behind her protectee"- that's a pretty lame argument. I suppose that with Pres. Trump completely surrounded by others she could have dog-piled on top, but I'm not too sure that would have been helpful.

Did she react correctly? Damned if I know. Should she keep her job? Again, damned if I know. Was she a DEI hire? No one knows at this point. Did that have anything to do with anything in this situation? Probably not. We should probably check with the sniper team and other SS agents (man or woman) who didn't engage the shooter until after several people on the ground saw the shooter and were yelling about it and after the shooter got off several rounds to find out how DEI kept them from reacting sooner.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

I asked 50 pages ago in this thread a similar question. You wouldn't have to take him out. Just a few shots into the air would have been enough to get the SS detail to cover Trump.

Who in their right mind "shoots into the air," especially in a crowded venue where police and Secret Service personnel are likely to shoot at the person they see SHOOTING, rather than see another potential shooter?

 

[nucular]

She's an easy target. I get it. I mean, it appears that nothing she did or did not do had anything with Pres. Trump or anyone else being shot. A crowd is pressing in at an emergent moment and she and other agents are scanning the crowd...but sure, they must be incompetent...I mean, they are women.

I agree that there appears to have been a SS and security failure- no doubt. But are we interested in whose failure that was or have we found a DEI drum to beat and facts be damned?

Is there a DEI problem in the SS? Sure could be, but we have no idea whether that had anything to do with this. As for the single frame "hiding behind her protectee"- that's a pretty lame argument. I suppose that with Pres. Trump completely surrounded by others she could have dog-piled on top, but I'm not too sure that would have been helpful.

Did she react correctly? Damned if I know. Should she keep her job? Again, damned if I know. Was she a DEI hire? No one knows at this point. Did that have anything to do with anything in this situation? Probably not. We should probably check with the sniper team and other SS agents (man or woman) who didn't engage the shooter until after several people on the ground saw the shooter and were yelling about it and after the shooter got off several rounds to find out how DEI kept them from reacting sooner.

May not be DEI hires but definitely comes across (to my untrained eyes) as people with less training than I would like. I'm no expert but the nervousness, the inability to holster, the walking in circles. It doesn't look purposeful. This may just be that Trump got the F-troop rather than the A team. If I were him, I would consider getting my own private contractors.

 

[JAL]

The Secret Service is rotten at the top.

Kim Cheatle, who promised a new and improved Secret Service when appointed two years ago. She declared DEI her top priority, where pronouns are more important than presidential protection personnel.

 

[JCSR]

It is dignitary protection, everyone has an assigned role. Without knowing what each persons role was, it is just speculation to point to specific individuals and claim they acted appropriately or inappropriately.

I think I'm beginning to figure this out. This woman's assignment was to duck down behind Trump to prevent the State Police from stealing his wallet.

 

[Bugzilla]

Haven’t seen anything on this. Couldn’t id it on photos I’ve seen. Glen Beck had this photo.


Glenn Beck ® @glennbeck • 21h

Has anyone read about a second hit on #DonaldTrump? If you look at this photo you can see what appears to be a round hole in the chest. A bullet proof vest would explain the lack of blood. The #ussecretservice needs to provide answers on many things. There is no excuse Show more

 

[Bugzilla]

SAMMICHES!

 

[Hkindiana]

A bullet proof vest would not stop 5.56 unless it had ceramic or AR500 plates in it

 

[Keith_Indy]

Screw him. He might as well be part of of the deep state. This is one of the few movies he is in I would watch anymore because the rest of the movie (Smith, Hackman, Voight) is good. I'll never watch another Jack Black movie again (not that I was ever much a fan).

 

[nipprdog]

Haven’t seen anything on this. Couldn’t id it on photos I’ve seen. Glen Beck had this photo.


Glenn Beck ® @glennbeck • 21h

Has anyone read about a second hit on #DonaldTrump? If you look at this photo you can see what appears to be a round hole in the chest. A bullet proof vest would explain the lack of blood. The #ussecretservice needs to provide answers on many things. There is no excuse Show more
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bloodstain?

 

[KG1]

I think I'm beginning to figure this out. This woman's assignment was to duck down behind Trump to prevent the State Police from stealing his wallet.

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She's covering Trump's ass..

 

[DadSmith]

A bullet proof vest would not stop 5.56 unless it had ceramic or AR500 plates in it

Level 4 will as you stated. Ceramic plates lvl4 will stop a lot. However, I do not know of any headgear able to stop a rifle rd.
Do they make lvl 4 helmets yet? If so I bet they would be way to heavy.

 

[maxipum]

I bet you are.

You bet your ass I am! You want to pretend that tub of lard can pack a wounded president or fellow secret service agent if needed? Hell why don’t you just put her on seal team 6 ! Facts don’t give a damn about your feelings.

 

[triggerhappy00]

Who in their right mind "shoots into the air," especially in a crowded venue where police and Secret Service personnel are likely to shoot at the person they see SHOOTING, rather than see another potential shooter?

Someone who was paying attention to Biden giving firearms advice? I mean if it will work for an intruder...

 

[BigMoose]

 

[ghuns]

She's an easy target. I get it...

We are of a similar age. Tell me you didn't immediately think, it's Pat!!!, when you saw that clip.

 

[NHT3]

It is dignitary protection, everyone has an assigned role. Without knowing what each persons role was, it is just speculation to point to specific individuals and claim they acted appropriately or inappropriately.

No matter her role she was carrying a firearm and appeared to be very poorly trained in the use of it.