Official Trump Attempted Assassination at his Rally Thread

[nonobaddog]

So they got DPMS to tell them what dealer they sold that serial # to. By some amazing coincidence, that dealer had closed, so the FBI had their paper records. Then they looked through their books by hand all within 30 minutes?

Well looky here - it just happens to be the top one.

 

[bwframe]

Isn't it amazing. The FBI is really smart but they can't figure out a motive for the attack.

Here's one...




But we know who the FBI reports to, right?

 

[Alamo]

 

[bwframe]

Funny how two mental health professionals can't raise a sane kid who doesn't murder people.

Exactly!

And sadly we all likely just paid off their student loans from learning these mad skills?

 

[HoughMade]

Exactly!

And sadly we all likely just paid off their student loans from learning these mad skills?

Point of order- despite the talk, almost no one's student loans have been paid off.

 

[2tonic]

I don't buy it. You are talking millimeters but what I see is he basically missed and Trump is a big target. He did hit four different people. I doubt if they were sitting in the same seat. I suspect they each had their own seat and they may not have been right next to each other either. That is not a tight group, that is feet not millimeters.

The other victims were hit with the next 5 shots, apparently fired indiscriminately.
Shooter triples, sees Trump go down, and starts cutting loose to create havoc. Those shots were cut short by the countersnipers bullet.
Alternatively, the follow up shots were just sprayed in the area where Trump disappeared to, in hopes of more hits.

 

[bwframe]

Point of order- despite the talk, almost no one's student loans have been paid off.

My mistake. I got the terminology wrong. Their mental health education student loans have been "forgiven."

Biden-Harris Administration Approves $1.2 Billion in Loan Forgiveness for Over 150,000 SAVE Plan Borrowers | U.S. Department of Education

www.ed.gov

 

[nucular]

Point of order- despite the talk, almost no one's student loans have been paid off.

Other than the billions and billions of dollars' worth so far

https://thehill.com/homenews/education/4422088-biden-forgiven-student-loans-debt-relief/

Biden-Harris Administration Announces Additional $7.4 Billion in Approved Student Debt Relief for 277,000 Borrowers | U.S. Department of Education

www.ed.gov

 

[JAL]

Until there's something more of significance about USSS incompetence, or the would-be assassin, I'm returning to what had been my regularly scheduled movie watchlist.

• The American
• The Jackal
• Jack Reacher
• Leon: The Professional
• Shooter
• Two-Minute Warning
• The Day of the Jackal
• Spy Game
• American Sniper

What!?! No John Wick?? Amateur!

OK . . . so I didn't include my entire watchlist with some older stuff (yeah there's more):

• John Wick (should make many happier; trivia: the Red Circle club is a nod to Francois Truffaut's movie, Le Cercle Rouge)
• The Dead Zone (1983)
• Dirty Harry (1971)
• The Manchurian Candidate (1962 original)
• The Manchurian Candidate (2004 remake)
• Suddenly (1954)
• The Parallax View (1974)
• Twilight's Last Gleaming (1977)
• The Sniper (1952; not the 2009)

 

[Route 45]

 

[foszoe]

Nice to know its once again ok for grown men to tell each other they love them! Once upon a time, that could have been sponsered by Bud Light!

 

[HoughMade]

Other than the billions and billions of dollars' worth so far

https://thehill.com/homenews/education/4422088-biden-forgiven-student-loans-debt-relief/

Biden-Harris Administration Announces Additional $7.4 Billion in Approved Student Debt Relief for 277,000 Borrowers | U.S. Department of Education

www.ed.gov

Small fraction, mostly with preexisting programs and likely overstated as politicians are prone to do.

But this is really about the specific parents and it's weird to make specific allegations about them at this stage. Let's see what the actual facts are.

 

[nucular]

Small fraction, mostly with preexisting programs and likely overstated as politicians are prone to do.

But this is really about the specific parents and it's weird to make specific allegations about them at this stage. Let's see what the actual facts are.

It's INGO. Embrace the tangent!

 

[foszoe]

Pulse of the room.

To all those wondering why the shooter wasn't detained. What meets the threshold for detaining someone, especially if they are outside an established security perimeter?

Having a rangefinder?
Lawful possession of a firearm?

Do the rules OUTSIDE the perimeter change if its the president being protected?

I thought the purpose of establishing a perimeter was demarcation of where the rules changed.

 

[nucular]

Can you imagine the dinner table conversations that took place in this kids house? Wonder how many times those parents called Trump 'Literally Hitler', 'Fascist', etc. He probably thought they would be proud.

 

[nonobaddog]

The other victims were hit with the next 5 shots, apparently fired indiscriminately.
Shooter triples, sees Trump go down, and starts cutting loose to create havoc. Those shots were cut short by the countersnipers bullet.
Alternatively, the follow up shots were just sprayed in the area where Trump disappeared to, in hopes of more hits.

So your opinion is that he was secretly a really great shot. My opinion is different, that's cool.

 

[Ark]

Pulse of the room.

To all those wondering why the shooter wasn't detained. What meets the threshold for detaining someone, especially if they are outside an established security perimeter?

Having a rangefinder?
Lawful possession of a firearm?

Do the rules OUTSIDE the perimeter change if its the president being protected?

I thought the purpose of establishing a perimeter was demarcation of where the rules changed.

The threshold for approach or detention at an event like this is low. Yes, they absolutely can stop and question you for using a rangefinder. Open carry of rifles doesn't exist in rifle range of an event like this.

Criminal charges are different, but yes they absolutely can approach you, question you, and turn you away. Many, many such interactions happen every day.

 

[Route 45]

Pulse of the room.

To all those wondering why the shooter wasn't detained. What meets the threshold for detaining someone, especially if they are outside an established security perimeter?

Having a rangefinder?
Lawful possession of a firearm?

Do the rules OUTSIDE the perimeter change if its the president being protected?

I thought the purpose of establishing a perimeter was demarcation of where the rules changed.

Irrelevant. The problem is the ridiculously insufficient perimeter, not the legalities.

 

[Route 45]

 

[Alamo]