Mass shooting reported in San Bernadino

[Cameramonkey]

Isn't somebody gonna help that poor man?

Hush Harriet! Thats a sure way to get him killed!

 

[bwframe]

I'll only give you a taste right now, as I really don't want this to become political, but supposedly Osama is dead, though it would have been much sweeter if Obama went in there and took him out himself. (I figured this would appease the majority without causing too much commotion.)

I would never disagree that Obama is a terrible president, but he has signed a few laws that actually helped us gun owners. He recently authorized the transfer of World War II 1911 handguns to the civilian marksmanship program and he also legalized the carrying of handguns in national parks.

What are you gents thinking on the President's addressing the nation Sunday evening?

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...obama-address-nation-over-terror-threats.html

 

[pudly]

I would never disagree that Obama is a terrible president, but he has signed a few laws that actually helped us gun owners. He recently authorized the transfer of World War II 1911 handguns to the civilian marksmanship program and he also legalized the carrying of handguns in national parks.

Both of those were minor amendments in much larger bills, the first of which was vetoed and had to be resubmitted. I credit congress for getting him to swallow those rather than Obama for signing despite pro-gun provisions.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Both of those were minor amendments in much larger bills, the first of which was vetoed and had to be resubmitted. I credit congress for getting him to swallow those rather than Obama for signing despite pro-gun provisions.

How are we deciding if Barry was "good" or "bad?" It's completely subjective. If you look at from a left standpoint, he was stellar in what he accomplished, but those same accomplishments would be looked at, by the right, as bad.

 

[IndyDave1776]

How are we deciding if Barry was "good" or "bad?" It's completely subjective. If you look at from a left standpoint, he was stellar in what he accomplished, but those same accomplishments would be looked at, by the right, as bad.

This statement rests upon a falsehood. It presupposes that the standard of the quality of a president is popular approval. The job calls for, as described in the oath of office, diligently following the Constitution in the course of managing the country. Not only has Barry signally failed to do so, he has made it clear that he considers the Constitution an obstacle he is forced to work around rather than a standard by which he should operate. There is nothing subjective about this, unless, of course, you subscribe to the contemporary leftist position that the Constitution is a 'living document' that says WTF-ever you want it to say as found in the spaces between the lines.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

https://twitter.com/HotlineJosh/status/673118126817411073

Ohhhhh, so per Obama, the San Bernardino attackers were victims who succumbed to an ideology.

Say what you will about Bush but crap like that makes me glad Al Gore wasn't President on 9/11.

Funny, I would say that the dead and wounded are victims who succumbed to an ideology.

 

[churchmouse]

Isn't somebody gonna help that poor man?

One of the best flics of all time.

 

[churchmouse]

How are we deciding if Barry was "good" or "bad?" It's completely subjective. If you look at from a left standpoint, he was stellar in what he accomplished, but those same accomplishments would be looked at, by the right, as bad.

So I am guessing you know where my feet are firmly planted.......

You are invited as well...........Dis-gonna be good........

 

[DoggyDaddy]

bububut what about the freedom of religion.

No, no, no... haven't you heard? It's now freedom from religion. They even have their own "group" now to rid the country of those horrible nativity scenes.

 

[ghuns]

One of the best flics of all time.

The best in my book. Yesterday was the 41st anniversary of its release.

 

[jdmack79]

What are you gents thinking on the President's addressing the nation Sunday evening?

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...obama-address-nation-over-terror-threats.html

I'm well aware that is President is pushing for gun control. At the same time we should accept that he has signed a few pro gun laws, even if they were signed unwillingly. The point you're somehow attempting to make is?

 

[IndyDave1776]

Funny, I would say that the dead and wounded are victims who succumbed to an ideology.

Absolute truth spoken here. People who subscribe to wrong thinking are NOT victims, those they harm on account of their wrong thinking are.

I'm well aware that is President is pushing for gun control. At the same time we should accept that he has signed a few pro gun laws, even if they were signed unwillingly. The point you're somehow attempting to make is?

You are conflating two concepts. Obama signed a couple of laws which helped us in which the helpful parts were the distasteful amendment added to something he really wanted and/or needed to sign, and essentially did so under duress. There is no merit in involuntarily doing the right thing because you are denied a realistic alternative. It is much like saying that a certain burglar hasn't stolen for anyone since the day he was arrested even though he hasn't been out of jail since that day.

 

[printcraft]

I would never disagree that Obama is a terrible president, but he has signed a few laws that actually helped us gun owners. He recently authorized the transfer of World War II 1911 handguns to the civilian marksmanship program and he also legalized the carrying of handguns in national parks.

I'm well aware that is President is pushing for gun control. At the same time we should accept that he has signed a few pro gun laws, even if they were signed unwillingly. The point you're somehow attempting to make is?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ses-course-forbids-sale-antique-m-rifles.html

http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2014/03/29/breaking-news-obama-bans-ammunition-imports/

http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/18/obama-administration-bans-import-of-popular-russian-firearms/

 

[bwframe]

I'm well aware that is President is pushing for gun control. At the same time we should accept that he has signed a few pro gun laws, even if they were signed unwillingly. The point you're somehow attempting to make is?

No point, just wanting your opinion, along with the other gent who seems somewhat accepting of the president.

 

[jamil]

I'm well aware that is President is pushing for gun control. At the same time we should accept that he has signed a few pro gun laws, even if they were signed unwillingly. The point you're somehow attempting to make is?

When the president uses every political ploy he can conjure to attack gun owners, why is it necessary to acknowledge minor legislation that he signed just to get something he wanted more?

 

[Alpo]

He's done a great job of pushing me into the "one issue voter" category.

 

[jamil]

He's done a great job of pushing me into the "one issue voter" category.

I never considered myself a one-issue voter, but damn this tends to polarize me probably more than any other issue.

 

[BugI02]

I never considered myself a one-issue voter, but damn this tends to polarize me probably more than any other issue.

2A has many enemies. Its just that SA demands the most immediate threat must be dealt with first. ANY Republican. Even Trump. Even ... uuugh... Rubio (just for you GP)

 

[dusty88]

I never considered myself a one-issue voter, but damn this tends to polarize me probably more than any other issue.

It's one of the few issues where voting actually matters imo.

In most other issues the outcome tends to drift towards bigger government regardless of what rhetoric candidates use.

 

[BogWalker]

Obama Administration Reverses Course, Forbids Sale of 850,000 Antique Rifles | Fox News

BREAKING NEWS! OBAMA BANS AMMUNITION IMPORTS!

Obama Administration Bans Import Of Popular Russian Firearms | The Daily Caller

The idea of 700,000 M1 carbines potentially going to scrap nearly makes me cry.