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    Tombs

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    How do you (they) know this? I have heard the top docs say it IS helpful against new variants.

    I went back a week in my history trying to find the paper. I stumbled across it while researching ivermectin studies, and I can't find it again.

    "Helpful" in this context depends how you want to define it. I mean 50.00001 is still greater than 50.
    But is it as "helpful" as it was on the prior variant? No.
     

    Alpo

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    It's because, like I said, the vaccines have marginal protection against new and emerging variants.
    People are sold a lie that the vaccine protects them, when really it protects them from what was running rampant a year ago. It has questionable effectiveness over time and against new variants.

    This is why israel is now saying they consider you un-vaxxed if you've only had 2 injections, and they're trying to roll out a 4th booster now.

    We're into wack-a-mole territory where we need a treatment rather than a vaccine for combatting this. But big pharma doesn't like the concept of them not being the sole rights holders of a new and patent protected treatment, and are lobbying like hell to make sure they hold a monopoly on anything that might work.
    A quick read of Gibraltar Coronavirus deaths: 97 total, 53 pre vaccination or within 2 weeks of the start of the original vaccination campaign. Infections have risen recently, but deaths....not so much.

     

    JeepHammer

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    The main difference there is advancements in diagnostics and broadening of the spectrum. I honestly think that the correlation with vaccination is due to the fact that it becomes more noticeable as children get to the age where their shots come into play. It's not necessarily the shots causing it so much as it is, "oh, they're a year old, they should be walking or doing X."

    Interesting outline of the history here:


    Sure.
    Since the actual educated professionals got better at identifying people on the spectrum...

    But that's a scientific basic and there are many here that didn't get the education in 6th grade.

    Since we generally stopped calling the afflicted "Retarded" or "Incorrigible" and writing them off...
    Just like we don't consider "Bad Humors" to be the cause of disease anymore (or about 75% of us don't).

    "Orange God Say Vaccine Bad" is about all they know, kind of typical of 16s in general,
    And the internet has made it easy to find them and target them.
    Social engineering in motion.
     

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    Sure.
    Since the actual educated professionals got better at identifying people on the spectrum...

    But that's a scientific basic and there are many here that didn't get the education in 6th grade.

    Since we generally stopped calling the afflicted "Retarded" or "Incorrigible" and writing them off...
    Just like we don't consider "Bad Humors" to be the cause of disease anymore (or about 75% of us don't).

    "Orange God Say Vaccine Bad" is about all they know, kind of typical of 16s in general,
    And the internet has made it easy to find them and target them.
    Social engineering in motion.

    Except Trump got the vaccines developed and delivered for free, and continues to push them...?
     

    indykid

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    Biden is happy to make laws from his bully-pulpit. He believes that he is the supreme dictator, and the fact that we have a constitution that states that only congress can make laws doesn't stop him from dictating his vision of dominance.

    And using blatant lies, that vaccinated people hate unvaccinated people further shows that he will stop at nothing to get what he wants, not what the country wants. He knows better that the stupid constituency, but at least he doesn't mean tweet.
     

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    "Orange God Say Vaccine Bad" is about all they know, kind of typical of 16s in general,
    And the internet has made it easy to find them and target them.
    Social engineering in motion.
    Who started Operation Warp Speed to rush the vaccine to production? To claim that Trump said "Vaccine Bad" is disingenuous at best. Back then, you had Democrats declaring they would NEVER take a vaccine endorsed by Trump. Yet here we are, and those same people are the biggest cheerleaders for the very vaccines that got developed under Operation Warp Speed.

    You seem to be blaming the people that aren't comfortable with getting the vaccine. Yet those people (you assume) are Trump supporters.

    I know that thinking for oneself is foreign to you, but I assure you, it happens.
     

    indykid

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    And recommended drinking bleach,

    And continues to pump disinformation/lies about masks & vaccines...

    That's even though he got his entire family to the front of the vaccine line...
    You obviously get your news from Saturday Night Live. Go find the actual video of the bleach mention. And the lies and disinformation that comes from Fauci, changing from week to week and sometimes from day to day, misleading both presidents has no bearing on what either say or said?

    And the President of the United States of America has the right to get preferential treatment when it comes to health concerns. I have no problem with that.
     
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    Alpo

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    Who started Operation Warp Speed to rush the vaccine to production? To claim that Trump said "Vaccine Bad" is disingenuous at best. Back then, you had Democrats declaring they would NEVER take a vaccine endorsed by Trump. Yet here we are, and those same people are the biggest cheerleaders for the very vaccines that got developed under Operation Warp Speed.

    You seem to be blaming the people that aren't comfortable with getting the vaccine. Yet those people (you assume) are Trump supporters.

    I know that thinking for oneself is foreign to you, but I assure you, it happens.
    The main problem with The Donald was that his mouth was open all the time. You never knew what he was going to say and often contradicted himself within minutes in the same stream-of-consciousness oratory.

    I don't blame him for the general incompetence of the bureaucracy. There is only so much the man in charge can do. Decimation may have been more effective however.
     

    Leo

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    And recommended drinking bleach,

    And continues to pump disinformation/lies about masks & vaccines...

    That's even though he got his entire family to the front of the vaccine line...
    I heard that speech, and you are knowingly taking the words out of context. Don't forget, he was directed to fauci as being the top authority on the subject. President Trump also said that his Doctors felt that hydroxychloroquine could not hurt, and took it. Immediately afterwards the bureaucrats started moving against the drug that has been given to every soldier since WWII. Bigger story to tell and bigger enemy to conquer than the lefts hate for the first President to get in their way to jam socialism through.
     
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