Mandated vaccines or weekly testing for employers of 100+ people.......

[jsx1043]

 

[jsx1043]

Yes, because it is virtually impossible to make a substance that has therapeutic effect without having an adverse effect in some percentage of people.

The point still stands. Just because it is approved does not make it right for everyone. The government forcing it on us by proxy of private businesses is draconian and antithetical to freedom. Even if it is “safe and effective,” they’ve done a horrible job of selling it as such and by them forcing it on people just to interact in society only reinforces that it is not what they say it is. I know more people who have died from the vaccine or have received horrendous side effects than who’ve suffered similar from the virus.

I know it’s anecdotal and I don’t give a ****. The numbers are for ****, the studies are for ****, the announcements are for **** and the measures are for ****. My instincts tell me this stinks to high heaven, and frankly, at this point, if I die in bed hooked up to a ventilator (I won’t) then I earned it. Or if I die on my feet in a pile of brass (more likely) with Joe Biden himself stumbling toward me with a syringe full of Fauci-Juice (not likely at all) then I will have lived a good life and gone out standing up for something. More than I can say for some cucked-up nancies around here.

 

[ws6guy]

Yes, because it is virtually impossible to make a substance that has therapeutic effect without having an adverse effect in some percentage of people.

That's the problem, there will always be a percentage that will have an adverse reaction to anything including this vaccine. So far the vax seems statistically safe but there will always be those that have issues. It should be a persons choice to take that risk. For a lot of age groups catching covid is statistically safe too.

 

[HoughMade]

Theres over 9000 sick and dead form the pandemic shot that if alive would disagree.

I see we have an inability to distinguish causation from correlation...a misunderstanding of how VAERS works and a selective outrage about low-risk activities.

 

[ghuns]

There was already a nursing shortage. Laying off nurses who won't get the jab, while a shortage is going on is criminal IMO. People will die because of politics, nothing else.

Local hospital was diverting patients because they were over capacity. Niece who works there said, it's true. 150 beds, all full. I was like, wait... Though they had 300 beds? She said, also true. But only have staff to cover 150.

 

[BugI02]

I can't blame any employer that wants to protect all other workers & staff from a potential 'Typhoid Mary'.

This is specious. The same organization whose directives you already have such slavish devotion to has already said the viral load of vaccinated people with a breakthrough infection is equal to or greater than that of an unvaccinated case with similar levels found in the nasopharynx

EVERYBODY is a potential 'Typhoid Mary' regardless of their vaccination status, and masking is of no proven benefit in preventing transmission and social distancing within a contained space with limited air circulation provides little protection

Thus, the employer doesn't really want to protect anything but his own ass and prevent the twitter mob from coming for him due to refusal to toe the line

 

[ws6guy]

It is curious that vars data appeared to spike at the same time the vax came out. It's a damn shame in the age we live in that we don't have the data to determine if the vax caused the spike.

It's kind of like dying with covid or dying because of covid. It seemed that if you died with covid you were automatically a covid death, should the same rule apply to the vax? That way we can have inflated death numbers for both.

 

[buckwacker]

You do realize that the ingredient lists are available, right? Here's the Pfizer vaccine:

"WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS IN COMIRNATY (COVID-19 VACCINE, mRNA) AND
THE PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE?
COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) and the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine
include the following ingredients: mRNA, lipids ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-
6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 2 [(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-
ditetradecylacetamide, 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine, and cholesterol),
potassium chloride, monobasic potassium phosphate, sodium chloride, dibasic sodium
phosphate dihydrate, and sucrose."

Which of those ingredients is the "poison"?

There is ample clinical data regarding the safety of these vaccines. There is significant pharmacovigilance data to support their safety.

I showed mine; you show me yours.

Reading your posts leads me to believe that your a guy with an above average intellect. So this is pretty weak sauce for someone like you.

If you think listing out ingredients of a chemical cocktail and declaring that "see none of these things are harmful" then there would be no need for clinical drug trials and no drugs would ever lose approval due to adverse reactions, because we know what the ingredients are.

Weak, man, weak.

 

[printcraft]

Are you actually willing to get the future boosters? It sounds like there's a lot of them planned.

Ground Control to Major Con
Get your 4th booster shot
Take your covid pills and put your helmet on...

 

[buckwacker]

The data say otherwise.

What data? Where's the clinical trial data? It's only been used for less than a year. Lots of adverse reactions on FAERS. Disproportionately high.

 

[BugI02]

Well, perhaps you weren't guilty of anecdotal interpolation....but you would be a unicorn on this site if that was true.

Don't you mean 'extrapolation'

 

[buckwacker]

mRNA vaccines have been studied for decades.

Yes, but I notice you sidestepped the comment about widespread use on humans.

I think this guys might have a stronger grasp on this topic than you do.

mRNA inventor says young adults shouldn't have to get COVID vaccine

"The inventor of mRNA vaccines said 'the government is not being transparent about the risks' of the COVID-19 vaccine after YouTube deleted a video where he discussed potential risks for young adults and teens.

Dr. Robert Malone, who invented the mRNA technology that's now being used in the COVID-19 vaccine, told Fox's Tucker Carlson on Wednesday night that there isn't enough data about the risks for these age groups and doesn't believe they should be forced to get vaccinated"

 

[Magyars]

 

[BugI02]

You do realize that the ingredient lists are available, right? Here's the Pfizer vaccine:

"WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS IN COMIRNATY (COVID-19 VACCINE, mRNA) AND
THE PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE?
COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) and the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine
include the following ingredients: mRNA, lipids ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-
6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 2 [(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-
ditetradecylacetamide, 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine, and cholesterol),
potassium chloride, monobasic potassium phosphate, sodium chloride, dibasic sodium
phosphate dihydrate, and sucrose."

Which of those ingredients is the "poison"?

There is ample clinical data regarding the safety of these vaccines. There is significant pharmacovigilance data to support their safety.

I showed mine; you show me yours.

Now do the ingredient list for DengVax and expound on how it was safe and effective since none of the ingredients in isolation were deleterious

And then maybe mention how long it was in use before the effects of concern became apparent

 

[buckwacker]

Don't you mean 'extrapolation'

I was going to, but decided to go with the horn bit instead. Alpo

 

[Magyars]

Yes, because it is virtually impossible to make a substance that has therapeutic effect without having an adverse effect in some percentage of people.

Like Ivermectin? Hmmm....
If your interested here is one article among many. ( with plenty of links )
I believe if you follow the money, the reason(s) become clear.

 

[BugI02]

A stick-poke is the INGO way of saying 'Good day, fellow member. Glad you could drop by'

 

[nate77]

You do realize that the ingredient lists are available, right? Here's the Pfizer vaccine:

"WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS IN COMIRNATY (COVID-19 VACCINE, mRNA) AND
THE PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE?
COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) and the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine
include the following ingredients: mRNA, lipids ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-
6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 2 [(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-
ditetradecylacetamide, 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine, and cholesterol),
potassium chloride, monobasic potassium phosphate, sodium chloride, dibasic sodium
phosphate dihydrate, and sucrose."

Which of those ingredients is the "poison"?

There is ample clinical data regarding the safety of these vaccines. There is significant pharmacovigilance data to support their safety.

I showed mine; you show me yours.

Comirnaty isn’t available in the US, otherwise the other two injections would have lost their EUA’s.
Why play these games if it is safe and effective?

 

[JeepHammer]

I support your right to NOT get the vaccine.

I also support the right of employers to send you packing.

I think it's hysterical the very people ranting about vaccines not working are overrunning the hospitals...
(Not hysterical in a funny way)

The same people that didn't want comprehensive health insurance are the very ones headed to the hospitals in droves...

There is a simple solution,
Show up with COVID and no vaccine (excepting children that vaccines are aren't approved for),
Then get a dose of trump approved parasite medication and send them home with the phone numbers of funeral homes.

It's called triage, save the ones you can, the rest left to nature.

 

[JeepHammer]

You do realize that the ingredient lists are available, right? Here's the Pfizer vaccine:

"WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS IN COMIRNATY (COVID-19 VACCINE, mRNA) AND
THE PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE?
COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) and the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine
include the following ingredients: mRNA, lipids ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-
6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 2 [(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-
ditetradecylacetamide, 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine, and cholesterol),
potassium chloride, monobasic potassium phosphate, sodium chloride, dibasic sodium
phosphate dihydrate, and sucrose."

Which of those ingredients is the "poison"?

There is ample clinical data regarding the safety of these vaccines. There is significant pharmacovigilance data to support their safety.

I showed mine; you show me yours.

Needs to be posted again.
The science deniers and those brainwashed by China, Russia and conspiracy theorists won't do any actual research and can't understand the results of actual research.

You can't fix stupid, but nature is fixing some of them...
Darwinism in action.